PureFORM 1.99 (yet another FORM designer)

[michel]

Hi Gnozal,

Super, thank you

michel

[Klonk]

Some bugreports:
* When the Integrator has a scrollbar, the last visible entry cannot be clicked
* When creating a new gadget and changing the gadget text, the last (few) character is not visible in the preview and not saved. As soon space or backspace is pressed once all characters are kept.

[gnozal]

* When the Integrator has a scrollbar, the last visible entry cannot be clicked

You mean select the last item in the gadget list when there is a scrollbar ? No problem here.

* When creating a new gadget and changing the gadget text, the last (few) character is not visible in the preview and not saved. As soon space or backspace is pressed once all characters are kept.

What gadget ? Seems to work here with a textgadget.

[Klonk]

I meant last item cannot be selected (windows 7)

I had this problem on several Gadgets... and now simply am not able to reproduce it easily...

OK
1. New Project
2. Add a Frame3D Gadget
3. delete Gadget Text using DEL key
4. type some text (some smaller words quite fast)
=> sometimes it appears immediately sometimes some characters (last word) do not appear immediately.. Hard to describe...
To me it looks like there is some trouble in updating the gadgets or at least some delay (maybe an event is handled too late?)

Maybe you can find something..

Yeah event handling might be a cause... because (a differnt annoyance):
when changing coordinates of a gadget clicking the up or down arrow rapidly it oftenly happens, that the spingadget is not updated. It looks like it is hung. When clicking again on it all the clicks before seem to have been recognized...

[gnozal]

I meant last item cannot be selected (windows 7)
I had this problem on several Gadgets... and now simply am not able to reproduce it easily...
Maybe you can find something..
Yeah event handling might be a cause... because (a differnt annoyance):
when changing coordinates of a gadget clicking the up or down arrow rapidly it oftenly happens, that the spingadget is not updated. It looks like it is hung. When clicking again on it all the clicks before seem to have been recognized...

I could not reproduce it (WinXP x86), but the event handling in PureFORM is pure hell... Lots of subclassing, and maybe an event gets lost from time to time. Not to mention that it sometimes behaves differently with (external PB3.94) debugger enabled.

[Bisonte]

You (gnozal) use still 3.94 for it ?
How about converting the sources (Pureform & jaPBe) to PB 4.x ?

[gnozal]

You (gnozal) use still 3.94 for it ?

Yep, I started the project in 2004 iirc.

How about converting the sources (Pureform & jaPBe) to PB 4.x ?

I thought about it, but it's not so easy as it sounds...
It would probably be easier to start from scratch.

[Klonk]

I guess, I found the problem:
I was running Pureform from an USB thumbdrive. I am also running my email client from USB thumbdrive.
So i guess every time when my email client saves something to the drive the speed goes down. I also guess that pureform is saving some temporary files to the drive, therefore Pureform reacts slow and seems to have problems with event handling.

As soon I copied pureform to harddrive and run it from there everything runs smoothly.

My suggestion: If you use some temporary files, why not save them to the the windows temp folder?

So, many thanks in helping.

Purform is that what a future Visual Designer should be. Thumbs up for this great piece of software.

[gnozal]

My suggestion: If you use some temporary files, why not save them to the the windows temp folder?

PureFORM uses temporary files essentially for the undo feature.
I will keep your suggestion in mind.

[Warmonger]

Purform is that what a future Visual Designer should be. Thumbs up for this great piece of software.

I would agree, but the designer needs to keep up with the PureBasic versions. Along with the new control support that comes with them new versions (canvas etc). Other then that I just started using it and it seems to be nice, just don't like the way it spreads out across so many windows. Plus the lack of Windows 8 support the windows overlap one another. It is also a little wonky at building forms (probably due to being outdated). I like the one that comes with the PB installer, just needs to be updated a bit.

[gnozal]

...but the designer needs to keep up with the PureBasic versions. Along with the new control support that comes with them new versions (canvas etc).

You may use the 'custom gadget' feature.

...just don't like the way it spreads out across so many windows.

You may switch to the 'Integrator' UI.

[Primoz128]

Purform is that what a future Visual Designer should be. Thumbs up for this great piece of software.

I would agree, but the designer needs to keep up with the PureBasic versions. Along with the new control support that comes with them new versions (canvas etc). Other then that I just started using it and it seems to be nice, just don't like the way it spreads out across so many windows. Plus the lack of Windows 8 support the windows overlap one another. It is also a little wonky at building forms (probably due to being outdated). I like the one that comes with the PB installer, just needs to be updated a bit.

Win 8 is going to be insane fail...

Back on topic: This is amazing .

[IdeasVacuum]

Hi Warmonger, Click on Setup/Configuration. You will find a huge amount of very useful settings that give you the ability to make PureForm work the way you want it to.

[karmacomposer]

Is there an image control? If so, does it support transparency?

Can forms be skinned?

Thanks.

Mike

[gnozal]

Is there an image control? If so, does it support transparency?

PB's ImageGadget.

Can forms be skinned?

PureFORM does no support skins.