Phenomenon of low popularity PureBasic :?

PB · Post by PB » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:13 pm

> PB could be HUGE given the right marketing team and a bit of investment

I actually get the distinct feeling that Fred doesn't want it to get too big.

That sort of success can radically change things. Maybe he doesn't want that.

Post by **Polo** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:30 pm

I think that Purebasic is Fred's main job today.

Furthermore, why wouldn't he want to get PB bigger ? This is the aim when you produce a software.

rsts · Post by **rsts** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:34 pm

No one can speak for someone else's 'aim'.

cheers

pdwyer · Post by **pdwyer** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:38 pm

I think it's more of a hobby for him too, a serious, money making one perhaps but still a hobby. Getting bigger doesn't seem to be what this is about although getting better seems to be a good part of it.

For this reason PB might not be the best compiler for some people but I don't think that even free offers to help with marketing etc will change anything.

It is what it is.

moogle · Post by **moogle** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:40 pm

I wouldn't mind entering in a PureBasic logo or homepage contest

I dunno about it getting bigger, I'm not against it but I don't mind if it doesn't

rsts · Post by **rsts** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:22 pm

pdwyer wrote: It is what it is.

And fine it is. I'm very happy with how Fred and team are managing it.

cheers

Character · Post by **Character** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:23 pm

PB wrote:> PB could be HUGE given the right marketing team and a bit of investment

I actually get the distinct feeling that Fred doesn't want it to get too big.
That sort of success can radically change things. Maybe he doesn't want that.

Fred is a wise man. Respect.

Rook Zimbabwe · Post by **Rook Zimbabwe** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:31 pm

PLUS: (still on the lines limitation thing...) the most recent GAME I wrote is 849 lines (thus far) and I could seriously trim that to under 800 if I took out all the organizational BLANK lines i use to read my code better...

I could have written the entire thing in the DEMO version... I may try to compile it in that just to see if it could be done.

Post by **freak** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:05 am

Kale wrote:I agree with the OP though, PB could be HUGE given the right marketing team and a bit of investment. Also PB needs to achieve a certain critical mass before people start investing in PB, e.g. writing books, tools, etc...

PureBasic is a niche product, and it always will be. Be realistic for a change.

Its not about the website, its not about the marketing (although it probably could be better),
its not about OOP, its not about all the other "killer features" some of you tend to think will
lead to instant world domination.
Its simply about what the world of compilers and programming languages looks like today,
and PB will never stand a chance there against the big shots. But thats not our aim and
it never was.

So just grow up and face the real world...

V2 · Post by V2 » Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:44 am

I do appreciate PB as a programming language very much, and I believe that it has a powerful niche. I recommended PB to several guys - I'm sure at least 10 of them purchased, but here is the problem: All of them were nerds, geeks, experienced software engineers but they never heard a single word about PB. Though they bought it 'instantly' after trying the demo. My conclusion is that marketing or in more detail the awareness creation that something like PB exists is non-existing.

Freak, you being German just try to search heise, golem, [insert any computer or software mag here] for PureBasic... - btw: have you done any product positioning?

Rgds

milan1612 · Post by **milan1612** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:01 pm

V2 wrote:Freak, you being German just try to search heise, golem, [insert any computer or software mag here] for PureBasic... - btw: have you done any product positioning?

Somebody from the German forums added PB to the heise software archive
and I constantly report a new version number once a new version is released.
Here's the link: http://www.heise.de/software/download/purebasic/7873
The current user rating is 4.5 out of 5!

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:56 pm

Searching on google

google wrote:Freebasic = 109,000 pages
Quickbasic = 159,000
Purebasic = 169,000

So far so good, but

google wrote:Blitzbasic = 385,000

Well, it does (did) have a big following but it is mainly a game orientated language. (prepares for the flack to come pouring in)

Then there's

google wrote:Visual basic = 39,900,000

But I'm sure that not all those are MS visual basic hits but no doubt the majority are.

Now the question is, how much has it cost MS to get that much placement?

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:30 pm

freak wrote: So just grow up and face the real world...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Argument ends.

Demivec · Post by **Demivec** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:49 pm

freak wrote:
Kale wrote:I agree with the OP though, PB could be HUGE given the right marketing team and a bit of investment. Also PB needs to achieve a certain critical mass before people start investing in PB, e.g. writing books, tools, etc...
PureBasic is a niche product, and it always will be. Be realistic for a change.

Its not about the website, its not about the marketing (although it probably could be better),
its not about OOP, its not about all the other "killer features" some of you tend to think will
lead to instant world domination.
Its simply about what the world of compilers and programming languages looks like today,
and PB will never stand a chance there against the big shots. But thats not our aim and
it never was.

Argument ends.

Post by **freak** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:43 pm

Kale wrote:
freak wrote: So just grow up and face the real world...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Argument ends.

point taken