Can someone who has experience using both PureBasic and Blitz honestly tell me what you find useful in PureBasic, and how difficult the transition would be from Blitz?
I have been using Blitz3D to program games for a few months now, but am now thinking of writing a Windows utility program. I do not think it is prudent to pay the full price to buy Blitz+ when I can pay a similar price to purchase a totally different program such as PureBasic, provided that PureBasic is easy to learn and does what I want it to do - I'm not thinking of using PureBasic for games, by the way. I'm also keen on the assembler bit (as I've used BBC Basic before) and the small executables that PureBasic allows for. Thanks!
PureBasic for Blitz programmer
Hi there! I'm also coming from BB3D. PB is well worth your money and time. Be prepared for a bit of frustration and a bit of experimenting. Forums member are particularly helpful... and so is Fred if you keep in his good books 
To give you an idea of how far you can go, even without OGRE, part of my current project has a file named "bb3demu.pb". I'll leave you to guess what it is 
(and before you ask: no, sorry, it's private sw)
Edit: I don't want to give the wrong impression: what I'm working on is obviously not as fully featured as BB itself (re 3D aspects) but so far there's no reason that it couldn't with enough time and effort. My work is also based on OpenGL and eventually (
) targeted at Linux.
To give you an idea of how far you can go, even without OGRE, part of my current project has a file named "bb3demu.pb". I'll leave you to guess what it is (and before you ask: no, sorry, it's private sw)Edit: I don't want to give the wrong impression: what I'm working on is obviously not as fully featured as BB itself (re 3D aspects) but so far there's no reason that it couldn't with enough time and effort. My work is also based on OpenGL and eventually (
) targeted at Linux.
Last edited by dmoc on Mon May 19, 2003 11:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Good...
Me, too Fred...Well, if I say my opinion, it will be not fair
It's a shake and bake! 
Personally, the only reason I use (PB) is because Blitz is not developed enough for my liking on the WindowsAPI side yet, infact my only problem with B+ is file size, no dll's, and it's still young.
PB is easy enough to learn, but has idiosyncrasys that require a learning curve, I still don't believe personally that 3D stuff in PB is quite up to scratch with Blitz, (personally?, I deleted the DLL for it, please don't take offence, which says more about PB really, considering if you don't want something you can throw it away ), my opinuion is;
"I'd rather have Blitz to code WinAPI, but it isn't quite powerful enough to do that yet, so PB is the next best thing."
/me ducks for flamages.
Personally, the only reason I use (PB) is because Blitz is not developed enough for my liking on the WindowsAPI side yet, infact my only problem with B+ is file size, no dll's, and it's still young.
PB is easy enough to learn, but has idiosyncrasys that require a learning curve, I still don't believe personally that 3D stuff in PB is quite up to scratch with Blitz, (personally?, I deleted the DLL for it, please don't take offence, which says more about PB really, considering if you don't want something you can throw it away ), my opinuion is;
"I'd rather have Blitz to code WinAPI, but it isn't quite powerful enough to do that yet, so PB is the next best thing."
/me ducks for flamages.
. On the other side, B3D is the best one for now on the 3D games side, without any doubts.Inner "remember i'am smiling" But
Are we getting emotional here
robleong was talking about diffidence between B+ and PB
He was seems satisfy with Blitz3D though.
Annnd Yeees what a learning curve
So ..
If we are getting emotional, then when he have bought B+ and BlitzMax comes out he can buy that and throw B+ out.
Like first you buy BB then you by Blitz3D and throw BB out.
And now you buy B+ and when BlitzMax comes you buy that one, and throw both B+ and Blitz3D out.
Is that emotional enough for you
Regards
Henrik.
But Are we getting emotional here
robleong was talking about diffidence between B+ and PB
He was seems satisfy with Blitz3D though.
Annnd Yeees what a learning curve
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;Blitz Plus.
;------------
Global Win1
Global Panel1
Global HTML1
Global PBAR1
; ----Function Begins----
Function CreateWin1()
Win1 = CreateWindow("Window1",50,150,677,564,Desktop(),31)
Panel1 = CreatePanel(12,28,639,438,Win1,1)
SetGadgetLayout Panel1,1,1,1,1
HTML1 = CreateHtmlView(5,5,625,412,Panel1,0)
SetGadgetLayout HTML1,1,0,1,0
PBAR1 = CreateProgBar(11,478,639,16,Win1,1)
SetGadgetLayout PBAR1,1,0,1,0
End Function
CreateWin1()
While WaitEvent()<>$803
; Do Something
Wend
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;PureBasic.
;------------
#Win1 = 0
#Frame1 = 0
#HTML1 = 1
#PBAR1 =0
; ----Procedure Begins----
Procedure CreateWin1()
If OpenWindow(#Win1, 287, 90, 677, 554, #PB_Window_SystemMenu , "Window1")
If CreateStatusBar(#PBAR1, WindowID()) : EndIf
If CreateGadgetList(WindowID())
Frame3DGadget(#Frame1, 5, 5, 670, 495, "", #PB_Frame3D_Double)
WebGadget(#HTML1, 15, 15, 655, 455, "about:blank")
ProgressBarGadget(#PBAR1, 5, 510, 665, 20, 0, 10)
EndIf
EndIf
EndProcedure
CreateWin1()
While WaitWindowEvent() <> #PB_EventCloseWindow
; Do Something
Wend
If we are getting emotional, then when he have bought B+ and BlitzMax comes out he can buy that and throw B+ out.
Like first you buy BB then you by Blitz3D and throw BB out.
And now you buy B+ and when BlitzMax comes you buy that one, and throw both B+ and Blitz3D out.
Is that emotional enough for you
Regards
Henrik.
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Thanks guys for the opinions. And thanks a lot, Henrik, for the demo code - I'll be taking a closer look at that. I also appreciate the honest opinion of Inner. Yes, I'm more than happy with Blitz3D when I'm writing games, so I'm not looking to replace that for games.
I'm now looking to write a Windows utility program, which is why I'm leaning towards PureBasic, rather than Blitz+. However, truthfully, had they decided to sell Blitz+ at a substantial discount for someone like me who already has Blitz3D, I would more likely have considered Blitz+! Having said that, I like the option of an inline assembler as I've used that often enough when I had my BBC micro 20 years ago, and it came in useful. I understand IBasic might have that soon too. And the small exe size that PureBasic is capable of producing is a big draw for me too.
Regards,
Robert.
I'm now looking to write a Windows utility program, which is why I'm leaning towards PureBasic, rather than Blitz+. However, truthfully, had they decided to sell Blitz+ at a substantial discount for someone like me who already has Blitz3D, I would more likely have considered Blitz+! Having said that, I like the option of an inline assembler as I've used that often enough when I had my BBC micro 20 years ago, and it came in useful. I understand IBasic might have that soon too. And the small exe size that PureBasic is capable of producing is a big draw for me too.
Regards,
Robert.
Re: PureBasic for Blitz programmer
> Can someone who has experience using both PureBasic and Blitz
> honestly tell me what you find useful in PureBasic, and how difficult the
> transition would be from Blitz?
If you've used any other Basic fluently, then the transition will be fairly
smooth. Most gripes that I've seen here are from those who haven't
programmed much in Basic before (IMO).
> honestly tell me what you find useful in PureBasic, and how difficult the
> transition would be from Blitz?
If you've used any other Basic fluently, then the transition will be fairly
smooth. Most gripes that I've seen here are from those who haven't
programmed much in Basic before (IMO).