what is the most hidden secret in the universe ?

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what is the most hidden secret in the universe ?

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it is what its questionnaire are also hidden and not easy to access.
the best i read about a description of the identity problem :
((Why doesn't my feeling of myself go along with the other me's as they split off, following other routes? In a way this is almost like asking: Why do I feel my feelings and not someone else's? What attaches me to the viewpoint of this body evolving down this branch of the universe at this moment in time? The question is so basic that it almost seems to defy clear formulation in words. And the answer does not seem to be forthcoming from quantum mechanics. In fact, this is exactly the collapse of the wave function reappearing at the far end of the rug under which it was shoved by Everett. It turns into a problem of personal identity, no less perplexing than the problem it replaces.)) (1)

i have discussed this funny idea with my neighbor: he said: are you crazy ,of course you are yourself and not myself, and me is myself and not that dog self, thats natural, what is so strange with this clear and bold fact !!!!
i said to him the idea is not like saying that your consciousness in my body and mine in your body that is a trivial mechanics problem, what i mean is :"oh impossible to say, forget it"
you should be less intelligent to catch slightly what is beyond all the intelligence. the computational theory does not work here.
a useless discussion

(1):Pitfalls of the uncertainty principle and paradoxes of quantum mechanics by Douglas R. Hofstadter scientific american July 1981 page 30
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The question of which the answer is 42.

There is no other secret greater, because, in theory, when that happens, the entire universe will disappear and recreate into something even more complex.

It is probably that this has *already happened*.
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think Penrose tried to answer that applepi, google Roger Penrose quantum consciousness
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I leave work everyday wondering, why did I just spend my time on that?

Sometimes I'll go on a hike, looking at the bugs I almost smash and think, every single experience is an intersection between whatever is behind my eyeballs and infinity.
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What is the most hidden secret in the universe?

Why?
%101010 = $2A = 42
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The fact that we are made of nothing but light.. "What shall be born of the light" next? :D
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strange : Perkin & Foz are from the '42' club , i have searched for the 42 number and found that Douglas Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy talk about it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7283155.stm
in the linked page:
((I cannot share it with anyone and the secret must go with me to the grave
Stephen Fry
Claims to know the 42 secret))
Perkin said: why?
why is the why ? : i don't understand this why, since 'whying' the secrets are natural action.

any way there is a small story called "A HIGH WIND IN JAMAICA" by Richard Hughes , which produced also as a movie with the same name, in the story a girl was playing on the pirates ship and suddenly she have an idea never thought before:
"Once fully convinced of this astonishing fact, that she was now Emily Bas-Thornton (why she inserted the "now" she did not know, for she certainly imagined no transmigrational nonsense of having been any one else before), she began seriously to reckon its implications.
First, what agency had so ordered it that out of all the people in the world who she might have been, she was this particular one, this Emily: born in such-and-such a year out of all the years in Time, and encased in this particular rather pleasing little casket of flesh? Had she chosen herself, or had God done it?

..... How could Emily have gone on being Emily for ten years without once noticing this apparently obvious fact?""

google for the full story
@idle: thanks for the links
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Many years before Douglas Adams created his masterpiece, the number 92 was used at my High School as the generic answer to unfathomable questions about life, the universe, and everything.

That this answer had reduced to 42 by the time of Douglas Adams, is proof positive that the universe is shrinking and is soon to end.

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Most hidden secret?

Forget it. You're far from ready. The truth will shatter your illusions of what's really normal and your reality will begin
to vaporize or transform into a cartoony concept of collective madness. A distorted sense of perverse acceptance
of a reality created by the minds of psychopats. Just let go and enjoy your illusions of perfection, cooperation and happiness. :mrgreen:

Mark Twain said it quite eloquently:
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Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist, but you have ceased to live.
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DK_PETER wrote:The truth will shatter your illusions of what's really normal and your reality will begin
to vaporize or transform into a cartoony concept of collective madness. A distorted sense of perverse acceptance
of a reality created by the minds of psychopats. Just let go and enjoy your illusions of perfection, cooperation and happiness.
Did someone say 'illusions'? :)
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What is the most hidden secret in the universe?
That's gotta be my drawer by the bed hehehe
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