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50 years of BASIC

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Apparently, May 1st is the gold anniversary of the BASIC language, I have been playing around with it for about 32 years, and I reckon PB is still the best version I have used. :)
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electrochrisso wrote:Apparently, May 1st is the gold anniversary of the BASIC language, I have been playing around with it for about 32 years, and I reckon PB is still the best version I have used. :)
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I started a little later.
1985 BASIC for IQ 151 (Czech 8 bit computer)
1986 BASIC F for Sord M5 (Japanese 8bit computer)
1988 GW Basic (PC-XT)
1989 TurboBasic 1.1 (PC-AT)
1992 PowerBASIC 3.0
1998 PowerBASIC 3.5
Of course I came into contact with Microsoft QuickBasic and QBasic, but I did not take these languages​​.
2004 PureBasic 3.91
2006 PureBasic 4.0
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2014 PureBasic 5.22
Since 2006 PureBasic is my favorite! :D

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My BASIC experience started in the fall of 1981 with ATARI (Shepardson) BASIC.
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Those were good days.

After about 8 years in 8-bit land I picked up the AMOS language for the 16-bit Amiga next.
Then after about a decade of Amiga/AMOS, the Microsoft consumer operating system had cloned enough of the Amiga to be useful,
and I went on to DarkBASIC (for Windows) for almost a dozen years.
Now I'm at my final stop, the PureBasic compiler (for Windows and Linux).

Each language was a big improvement over the previous (thank you Fred), but I don't expect that to continue.
Programmers are currently in a sweet spot, but somehow I feel that the computing environment will take a nasty turn for the worse,
most likely due to government interventions.

BASIC has been, and continues to be a great computer programming language.
Long live B.A.S.I.C.!
Here's to another fifty productive years.
Keep it BASIC.
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Re: 50 years of BASIC

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If you want to know more about this story and maybe some surprises follow this link:
http://www.emsps.com/oldtools/msbasv.htm
I experienced my first version in 1977 on a TRS- 80 Model 1 and 4 K. Then in addition to basic included in Roma machines like Apple, Atari etc ... My first application was for a pharmacy in 1979. I knew almost all versions from MS 5.1 in CP / M and MP / M until PDS 7.1, probably the best in MS DOS, including a database management given with ISAM ... Meanwhile there has been very good as it sbasic on Goupil owed nothing to MS . But also in PICK , an operating system database itself with language as a basic French. But not required length. The only real rival has been for a while Borland Turbo Basic which finally is devoted to Pascal , C etc ... It will take time to Visual Basic 1.0 and 2.0 to compete with PDS . It did made ​​possible by the arrival of ACCESS in support. I stopped to be close to my last application in 1998 has been to create a system for planing a convention center . I did in Visual Basic 2.0, but I followed the language to Visal Basic 6.0.

Then after a great trip and a break of more than 10 years and with time I looked there was ... I found PureBasic , it seemed great, I passed to see . But then, I did almost nothing too difficult remttre me in the bathroom and especially much interest or motivation for anything . Everyone knows or can know , just ask :) So from time to time when I need to do something or the other to me ... Well I have a very powerful tool for old crumbling like me.

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My history with BASIC began thirty-two and a half years ago, on my first computer, the Texas Instruments 99/4A. Thereafter, I've used Applesoft Basic, GW-Basic, QuickBasic, Basic PDS, Visual Basic for DOS, and finally Visual Basic 6.0. Then, one fateful day three years ago, while surfing the net in search of a BASIC-like programming language for development on OSX, I found a little gem called PureBasic.

Personally, I could never consider PureBasic to be truly BASIC. Besides a handful of keywords (For/Next, If/Else, Dim/ReDim, etc.), PureBasic is a whole other beast. It's faster, more efficient, and cross-platform, producing tight native binaries that do not require any runtimes or dependencies. All attributes not found in any of the earlier BASICs.

In fact, its hybrid syntax helped me bridge the gap to learning other languages, like C/C++, JavaScript, PHP, and more. Only wish I'd found it earlier! :D
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I pay respect to the decades of development & research.

In my young life, i started like this:

2004 GW-BASIC,
2006 PureBasic

since then i never was unfaithful.
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i have a paper book with title "Turbo Basic programs for Scientists & Engineers" by Alan R Miller /1987 sybex . which have advanced tech solutions. look also TI-89 BASIC SCIENCE PROGRAMS:
http://www.ticalc.org/pub/89/basic/science/
note that Physics Solver v1.2 with 101,658 downloads
the same with the zx sinclair basic, etc. i mean the basic language even in its simple form as in 1987 was used by thousands of engineers to solve the science and engineering problems. without basic language i think the world history track will be different .
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applePi wrote:...... i mean the basic language even in its simple form as in 1987 was used by thousands of engineers to solve the science and engineering problems.
Without any doubt :!:
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electrochrisso wrote:Apparently, May 1st is the gold anniversary of the BASIC language, I have been playing around with it for about 32 years......
It was 49 years ago, in 1965, when I first used the original Dartmouth BASIC via teletype machine from the General Motors research labs in Detroit. I also got my first exposure to the IBM/360 series.

Prior to that I was programming 2nd generation systems in FORTRAN and Autocoder.

Yes folks, I really am that old.

Still programming -- and loving it. :mrgreen:
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applePi wrote:i have a paper book with title "Turbo Basic programs for Scientists & Engineers" by Alan R Miller /1987 sybex...
I had another book from SYBEX, published in 1982, entitled Celestial BASIC, which contains a wealth of astronomy-based programs in BASIC, from plotting planetary positions and moon phases, to calculating dates and calendars. Needless to say, they had to be adapted for TI-Basic, but it was lots of fun.

I found a strange listing for the book over at Amazon UK, with a price indication of $3,600.00! :shock:
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Why nobody talks about Sir Clive Sinclair. He makes possible the true personal computer.
But fame is for apple, and his expensive system of planned obsolescence.

When Apple were expensive, impossible to buy (almost for me). A zx spectrum you could have without spending too much.

Honestly bothers me. the merit of the creator of the legendary Spectrum will not be recognized.

Sir Clive did a great computer without copying or stealing ideas. And we thank forgetting. (It reminds me of Tesla and Edison)

Neither Article 50 anniversary. talk about the spectrum, which worked in Basic.

Personally I think we have to be fair to the story.
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minimy wrote:Why nobody talks about Sir Clive Sinclair. He makes possible the true personal computer.
Syntax suitable for dialog programming method and quite small memory requirements meant that the Basic very well established as a basic programming language to gradually emerging small computing devices . First appeared in desktop calculators such as the Hewlett - Packard 9830 ( 1972 ) and Wang 2200 ( 1973 ) . In 1975 Bill Gates and Paul Allen founded Microsoft and co-wrote " saving " the Basic version for MITS Altair 8800, which was in the form of kits sold mainly American electric fans.

The golden days of Basic occurred in the early eighties and are associated with the development of personal and home computers . The first box contains the PC left the production line of IBM in 1981. This machine has been professionally tuned as the basic programming language supplied Basic ( Microsoft's ) , which was designed as a supplement to the operating system. This language known as IBM Basic or BasicA. in a slightly improved form appeared as a supplement to the operating system MS - DOS called GW Basic. (The first two letters are the initials of the author allegedly pair Greg Whitten & Wiliam Gates . )

At the same time, the European market appeared first home " 8bit " , the legendary ZX -81 (black ) possessing 1 Kb (! ) Memory. This was also a pet Basic, although obviously simpler ( integer ) version. Basic programming language remained dominant in other eight-bit computers such as the ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64, Atari 800XL , Armstrad CPC 464 and Sord M5 . In all these eight bit computers were placed in ROM Basic and substantially fulfills the role of the operating system !
It is true that the ZX Spectrum (1982 ) 48 kilobytes was a product that actually created the standard home computer and the spread of computers "among the people" was crucial. In poorer countries ( as was Czechoslovakia) was ZX Spectrum used even for professional purposes.
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> the basic language even in its simple form as in 1987 was used by
> thousands of engineers to solve the science and engineering problems

Which is why it pisses me off that coders these days think of Basic as
a "toy" language. They simply don't know its history and how good it is.
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minimy wrote:Why nobody talks about Sir Clive Sinclair.
Hi minimy. If anyone did use any of the Sinclair computers, I'm sure that they would talk about it here. After all, it was a fairly popular machine.
minimy wrote:Sir Clive did a great computer without copying or stealing ideas.
However, I wouldn't go that far. He didn't actually invent the personal computer, so, technically, he definitely copied the prevailing ideas, and simply implemented them in a more affordable way.
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in addition to the TI-994A book Celestial BASIC, i was a books collector and read at least the title and the introduction of many many astronomy and science books which contains listings of basic language
just a part from my collection:
planetary programs and tables from -4000 to +2800/ pierre bretagnon and Jean-Louis simon 1986
http://www.willbell.com/math/mc11.htm
it contains detailed planetary, sun, moon positions. also several pages of Basic language programs, there are also fortran programs.

Astronomy with your personal computer /PETER DUFFETT-SMITH /Cambridge University Press 1990 - reprinted 1997 , of course with basic language

Astronomical algorithms / Jean Meeus / second edition 1998 : it contains very advanced astronomical algorithms written all in basic language

the most popular subroutines in basic / ken tracton

Game Playing with Basic / Donald D. spencer

computer cryptology beyond decoder rings / karl andreassen / Prentice Hall 1987/ have many many basic listing about the complex a science of cryptology. i wish i have its floppy disk or at least its electronic form.

also there are many books about artificial intelligence in basic language

the scientific american magazine was publishing computer recreations monthly columns by A. K. Dewdney, and many articles contains basic listings, i can't find now his listing to produce the fractals but may be it is after his "Historic" introduction to the mandelbrot set in his article "A computer microscope zooms in for a look at the most complex object in mathematics" 1985 SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN https://static.scientificamerican.com/s ... elbrot.pdf

sky and telescope have published monthly columns which have basic listing for calculating astro phenomena.
i will add more books later to this list
countless magazine articles, books in physics , chemistry ,mathematics, papers, have Basic language listings which enriched the current brains .

Chaos and Fractals/ 1992 springer /by Heinz-Otto Peitgen Hartmut jurgens Dietmar Saupe
With 686 illustrations, 40 in color. advanced topics about Fractals, and all are accompanied with Basic language programs.

and this when the basic are too slow on slow computers.

at last look to this cat behavior
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpRu38PNvSM
she do: if_ then/ while_wend programming way until she saves her kitten
i will call this cat "your Highness".
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