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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Num3.


The Matrix is not just a "simple" action movie...

For those who can understand it, and see the movie inside the movie, it raises deep filosofical questions, about our society and ourselfs, and is filled with subtile scenes and phrases...

Is not the matrix a snapshot of our lifes???



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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by dmoc.

Eh, I only watched The Matrix for the special effects, didn't even know there was a story :wink:

Edit: I responded to this while taking a moment away from browsing Wikipedia. Less than a minute after returning to Wikipedia, and not by design, I arrived at the following page...

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singularity
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Kale.

The Matrix is one hell of a clever piece of film making! the whole film contains so many suble clues and metaphores they are nearly missed.


There are numerous references to "Alice in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There".

When Neo is calling to get extracted from the Matrix, he says, "Mr. Wizard get me out of here." - a reference to the 1960s cartoon Tooter Turtle. Each episode, Tooter would yearn to be something he wasn't and have his friend Mr. Wizard (a lizard) wave his magic wand and make him an astronaut or a scientist or whatever. Inevitably, Tooter would quickly get himself into trouble and call out, "Help Mr Wizard," and the lizard would say, "Drizzle, drazzle, druzzle, drome, time for this one to come home." Tooter would be transported back to his old self and be chided by Mr Wizard to "be happy with what you are".

As Neo runs through the old lady's apartment near the end of the film, we see an image on the TV of a menacing man in a black suit coat. The image is that of one of the Number 2s from the TV show "The Prisoner" (1967).

Trinity's room number is 303 ("trinity" 3). Neo is The One and number of his apartment is 101. Room 101 was the place in George Orwell's book "1984" where people were sent to be tortured and would end up believing something that wasn't true.


When Neo is meeting with the Oracle, the music playing in the background in her apartment is Duke Ellington's "I'm Beginning to See the Light".

In the Oracle's waiting room, the television is showing white rabbits (which, at the beginning of the film, Neo was instructed to follow)

The motorcycle Trinity rides is a jet black Triumph Speed Triple

"Know thyself", the phrase in the kitchen of the "oracle", was the inscription above the entrance of the Delphic Oracle.

The name of the company Neo works for is Metacortex. The roots of this word are meta-, which according to Webster's means "going beyond or higher, transcending," and -cortex, which is "the outer layer (boundary) of gray matter surrounding the brain." Thus, Metacortex is "transcending the boundaries of the brain," which is precisely what Neo proceeds to do.

Neo is often referred to as the "One". One is an anagram of Neo.

The book Neo hides his computer discs in is called "Simulation and Simulacra". The chapter where they're hidden called Nihilism. Nihilism often involves a sense of despair coupled with the belief that life is devoid of meaning.

Morpheus' ship 'The Nebuchadnezzar' is named after an ancient king who was given a prophecy in a dream, showing him the future starting from the then-present time unto the End of the Age. Revealing a Messiah, and the final battle of the Ages known as Armageddon. (Kind of wierd seeing as Nebuchadnezzar was the king of Babylon which was located where Iraq is today!)


These are a few i've found! :)

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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by CoderLaureate.

The web site for the movie has several different essays concerning the philosophies involved in the Matrix. I think the whole concept, the writing, the special effects, are all bloody genius.

The first essay: Dream Skepticism

Goes into Descartes' philosophy (I think therefor I am), and futher expounds upon what Descartes was saying. All the essays are very brilliant and profound.

There are many parallels between the Matrix, and many different religious philosophies as well. I was surprised to learn about the parallels with Gnostic Christianity. Up until I read the essays I didn't even know that there was a Gnostic Christianity.

I strongly recommend reading the essays in the philosophy section on the Matrix web site: http://www.theMatrix.com

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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by El_Choni.

Personally I find Matrix as philosophically deep and innovating as Sesame Street (I loved it), but if it takes you to acquire knowledge in all those subjects you mention, I admit your interest in that movie can't be that bad.

About all the references in the movie, I think all of them are quite superior to Matrix, starting with Alice (I, II & III) and ending with the Prisoner (does somebody know where to buy Patrick McGoohan's jacket?).

But it's only my opinion, I respect your preferences. Anyway, the idea of the reality as a disguise for a hidden 'more real' reality is older than christianism (either gnostic or lite).

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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by CoderLaureate.

I can see what you mean about the movie inspiring some of us to study further into philosophy. All of my education has been in the technical area. Computers, electronics, math and music.

The Matrix only became philosophically interesting to me after I read some of the essays on the Matrix web site. They inspired me to further study the works of Plato, Descarte, Socrates, and some of our modern day philosophers.

I wish we had more tv shows like the prisoner. I loved that show. Too bad there's nothing like it on tv in America anymore.



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