Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by MrVainSCL.
Hi Fred,
Hi @ all at this forum,
i really dont understand why you closed my topic about the image and future of pure... Normaly (even if some stuff) was discusses so often on this forum before (some even since v2.50!!!). just take a look forward and try to accept some users wishes and discussions! I really dislike that such a topic that would help the coder behind pure (also you fred) what way to go and what is the most important part that has high priority to the language and to get new users and maybe the use of pure by software companies!
It was no joke when i said that the company where i work would like to code some stuff in pure if there are not such things as i wrote about!
Please fred, maybe there are some (a hand full) of people like your way you go with pure... but all the other ppl here are following another way to write real and big appz with a stable version featuring some stuff missing atm and not to have 3D engine! 3D engine would be nice but can follow in future!
In my eyes Fred, you just closed the topic due fact you dont want that users are getting in panic and get demotivated by those discussions! Its really sad that users cant discuse that topic with you - without fight nor closing the topic! It would be just one way that the comunity can discuse with you and we all going the way the comunity need/want... and this would be in my eyes first the stuff ppl disucseed in the closed topic !
Even that you closed the topic Fred, ppl here are thinking more as before there own think/opininion about pure and you! Sorry but that is just my personal opinion!
Even you wrote that plouf (!?) have sayed all the stuff you wanted to write and giving us no more special defined infos about any point of the stuff ppl disccused is really sad Fred!
Do you really want to know what i think? Its just my personal opinion and i dont want to get in fight - but i think i can write my personal opinion free..
I think you want mutch features like a language for appz and games! Sure it would be nice to have! But its the wrong point to start with a 3D engine, even if there are other (a lot) things that are basical in nearly other language and users required here as long as i know!
Please think about all this Fred! I only wanted try to help u and open your eyes to get the right way and getting more ppl from other languages to pure and that ppl using pure are happy with the stuff it features and dont have to blame you over a year of everytime the same wishlist! But in fact of your reaction i think it makes really no more sence to disscuse this and i will try to learn c++ as i need it for my work too. I am still think to leave pure (even if i cant see and real changes with the next version) sorry ppl!
Fred,
please close ur eyes and take a minute to think about the right way for pure and to have a happy comunity... The best advert is to have lucky users and this will spread the word "PureBasic" more as any advert in a paper or whatever! Think about it! My opinion is, to set the mainproject (not the 3D stuff) to high priority and fixing first all known bugs before adding any new features (commands!), or the 3D stuff!
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Closing Topics and users opinions about pure!?
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Paul.
Hello MrVain,
Are you saying that is it not possible to write big professional apps with PureBasic at the moment because of bugs or limitations?
Hmm... if this is the case then I would have to disagree and say you have no idea what you are talking about
Does PB have bugs? ... yes
Can the PB command set be improved? ... of course
Can PB be used to write professional applications in its current state? ... definately
I have been using PB for quite some time now and although I can get frustrated over minor things, I am constantly seeing bugs being removed and new features being added. Just because features are not added in the order that I feel would benefit me, doesn't mean I will never see them... and it certainly does not mean I cannot create apps.
I think the only major limitation with PureBasic is the programmer using it.
If I can't accomplish a task one way, then as a programmer it is my job to find another way. There is never only one way to do something.
Regardless, it is not just my personal opinion that PureBasic can be used to create professional applications, but a fact!
Here are just a few of the many professional applications that I have written using the PureBasic/PureVision combo:
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/vmshortcuts
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/purevision
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/tlc
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/ccube
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/armtracker
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/anglerpro
Remember, it's not the tools that make the app, but the programmer using the tools.
Thank you Fred for creating such a wonderful Tool to work with !!
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Hello MrVain,
Are you saying that is it not possible to write big professional apps with PureBasic at the moment because of bugs or limitations?
Hmm... if this is the case then I would have to disagree and say you have no idea what you are talking about
Does PB have bugs? ... yes
Can the PB command set be improved? ... of course
Can PB be used to write professional applications in its current state? ... definately
I have been using PB for quite some time now and although I can get frustrated over minor things, I am constantly seeing bugs being removed and new features being added. Just because features are not added in the order that I feel would benefit me, doesn't mean I will never see them... and it certainly does not mean I cannot create apps.
I think the only major limitation with PureBasic is the programmer using it.
If I can't accomplish a task one way, then as a programmer it is my job to find another way. There is never only one way to do something.
Regardless, it is not just my personal opinion that PureBasic can be used to create professional applications, but a fact!
Here are just a few of the many professional applications that I have written using the PureBasic/PureVision combo:
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/vmshortcuts
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/purevision
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/tlc
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/ccube
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/armtracker
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/anglerpro
Remember, it's not the tools that make the app, but the programmer using the tools.
Thank you Fred for creating such a wonderful Tool to work with !!
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Max..
@ MrVain:
I'm a PureBasic newbie, started out two months ago.
While I do not know what PureBasic is capable to do, I know what it is NOT capable. It is stressed over and over again.
That said, so far not PureBasic limits me, but me (& my knowledge or using an euphemism: my time) limits what I reach with PureBasic.
Still I was able to provide a major european company with an easy installable, professional looking and stable program (not a single complaint so far though it adresses special hardware and is used by computer illiterates).
So far we can be highly content that one person adresses our issues that fast and for such an unbeatable price. Comparing it to another product I use, which initial costs were 15 times as high and where I pay 300 USD for support per year, not to mention that the support is far worse (the product is good though) I really feel that pressure on Fred has a limit.
Or in a nutshell version:
Relax.
@ Paul:
I like your website and would use (& buy, hehe) PureVision, if there wasn't the hardware key. While I agree to a per-person license, I dislike machine bound licenses.
Max.
@ MrVain:
I'm a PureBasic newbie, started out two months ago.
While I do not know what PureBasic is capable to do, I know what it is NOT capable. It is stressed over and over again.
That said, so far not PureBasic limits me, but me (& my knowledge or using an euphemism: my time) limits what I reach with PureBasic.
Still I was able to provide a major european company with an easy installable, professional looking and stable program (not a single complaint so far though it adresses special hardware and is used by computer illiterates).
So far we can be highly content that one person adresses our issues that fast and for such an unbeatable price. Comparing it to another product I use, which initial costs were 15 times as high and where I pay 300 USD for support per year, not to mention that the support is far worse (the product is good though) I really feel that pressure on Fred has a limit.
Or in a nutshell version:
Relax.
@ Paul:
I like your website and would use (& buy, hehe) PureVision, if there wasn't the hardware key. While I agree to a per-person license, I dislike machine bound licenses.
Max.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by MAGI.
Mr Vain
I am new also but...
Relax:
http://www.angry.com/
Smile:
http://www.darwinawards.com/
Smile some more:
http://mindprod.com/unmain.html
Smile even more:
http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/
Get a copy of MicroSloth’s latest Operating System… smile again:
http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/
Then, if frustration sets in, ask yourself two questions... what have I missed and what am I doing wrong?
It’s not the brush but the artist
Regards,
Marc
Mr Vain
I am new also but...
Relax:
http://www.angry.com/
Smile:
http://www.darwinawards.com/
Smile some more:
http://mindprod.com/unmain.html
Smile even more:
http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/
Get a copy of MicroSloth’s latest Operating System… smile again:
http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/
Then, if frustration sets in, ask yourself two questions... what have I missed and what am I doing wrong?
It’s not the brush but the artist
Regards,
Marc
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Paul.
PureVision has not used a hardware print for quite some time.
Guess you have not visited the PureVision website for some months becasue it says right on the downlaod page:
*The $20 registration license allows you to install and use this product on any number of computers that you personally operate.
Enjoy
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Hi Max,Originally posted by Max.
I like your website and would use (& buy, hehe) PureVision, if there wasn't the hardware key. While I agree to a per-person license, I dislike machine bound licenses.
PureVision has not used a hardware print for quite some time.
Guess you have not visited the PureVision website for some months becasue it says right on the downlaod page:
*The $20 registration license allows you to install and use this product on any number of computers that you personally operate.
Enjoy
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by MrVainSCL.
yes i think so and not only think this.. its definly fact! I dont speak hear about some nice small tools/appz ppl coded in pure! I mean high end software and if you have read the closed topic you would know what i exactly mean... I dont want to write it all again here... Would be nice to have that topic and dissuse there! However, pure dont support doubles for long vals and real floats, a lot (to lot) bugs, not stable enough atm, no resources, and a lot of other things!
Thanks!
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Hi Paul,Originally posted by Paul
Are you saying that is it not possible to write big professional apps with PureBasic at the moment because of bugs or limitations?
yes i think so and not only think this.. its definly fact! I dont speak hear about some nice small tools/appz ppl coded in pure! I mean high end software and if you have read the closed topic you would know what i exactly mean... I dont want to write it all again here... Would be nice to have that topic and dissuse there! However, pure dont support doubles for long vals and real floats, a lot (to lot) bugs, not stable enough atm, no resources, and a lot of other things!
I respect Fred´s work ofcoure and i like pure on one way! If pure would be more stable, and more topic features it would be a very nice language without to big limitations!Originally posted by Paul
Hmm... if this is the case then I would have to disagree and say you have no idea what you are talking about
tzzzzz... sorry Paul, i have never said that i am a pro coder but i have checked my pure version at work with some software developers and they liked it first, until they sawed all the limitations... So there was disccussion about: No included GUI-Builder?, Object-Oriented-Editor, No Doubles and real floats, No resources, to many bugs posted to the forum and to many crashed when we tried it at work! I think that the software developers at work know what they are talking about... They are writing high end software for industry and all software has very hard controls and must get the OK to accept a lot of industial DIN norms and other hard stuff! The company has differnent parts of software development! So they are coding some plugins for CAD progs and using CAD for there own use too! The CAD program that the company and a lot of big industry companies are using is for your info "CatiaV5 Release10". I think there are a lot stuff in pure where you will reach the limit of pure if you even try to code a very powerfull program (doubles for examples, limited strings and and and...)
Sure it has to many bugs (just take a look to the overgrowling bug report list on forum... esp ppl and companies thinking to use pure for some part too, will leave pure when seeing all that bugs! Someone (plouf!?) said in the clothed topic that every language and prog has bugs... Sure! But when i try to write a app in C++ it will work without such problems and i dont must fix and tricks here and there to get my app work like in pure nor have to wait for a update! A program created in c/c++/c# for eaxmple will run more stabe an its often faster to code... You have all functons to code what you want/need without waiting for the feature you need in your app (like resources, doubles i.e) and you have even as standart an object based editor, stable SDK with stable debugger, GUI-Builder and a lot more things!Originally posted by Paul
Does PB have bugs? ... yes
Can the PB command set be improved? ... of course
Can PB be used to write professional applications in its current state? ... definately
Sure user can improve pure by own commands (procedures, userlibs or dll) - in c/c++/c# i can use/write my own dll too! What will bring us a userlib or DLL where we need basical stuff that dont work correct internal in pure? So even the best userlib or DLL make no real profit for us as long as there are so many basical stuff and missed general basical stuff in pure! I know that this is a hard discussion as long as it will not be again closed or deleted! And as i said all the time before, i dont want blame nor get in fight with someone!We all know about this and i think ppl know that pure is not an old language and that fred rewrote all from MASM to FASM where some hidden bugs are included too. But even for a version 3.50 of a coding language i wish to have a more stable version without so many (basical stuff) bugs... Sure, there will be ever bugs and fixed thats normal! But what i mean are the generall basical stuff! A new feature we dont really need atm is the 3D engine in my eyes! First we should have a stable and powerfull SDK before adding new parts like 3D engine! Sure, 3D would be nice... But first all the other things are more important and should have high priority before continue with the 3D stuff!Originally posted by Paul
I have been using PB for quite some time now and although I can get frustrated over minor things, I am constantly seeing bugs being removed and new features being added.
If you know something about API, you can nearly code all the stuff you need... But selve this is limited due fact that pure has no doubles and other things and even as i said before... It make no sence to use API or the best user lib/dll as long as pure has internal basical bugs we cant change (only fred!)Originally posted by Paul
Just because features are not added in the order that I feel would benefit me, doesn't mean I will never see them... and it certainly does not mean I cannot create apps.
totaly disagree! Self the best coder reach the limitations with pure, even that there are internal basical bugs only fred can fix! No real doubles (dont lets talk about faked onces), no resources and and and!Originally posted by Paul
I think the only major limitation with PureBasic is the programmer using it.
Exactly Paul! And when me as programmer (or any company) see that there is no way to solve a problem due fact of the limitations and bugs inside pure, me (or the company) will still use another language! They dont try long how to solve it... Thats business! Time is money!Originally posted by Paul
If I can't accomplish a task one way, then as a programmer it is my job to find another way. There is never only one way to do something.
It cant! Its good for some small appz but there it ends! Pure would have more change if it would support real doubles, resources and all the other stuff i wrote before and other ppl discussed before in the closed topic!Originally posted by Paul
Regardless, it is not just my personal opinion that PureBasic can be used to create professional applications, but a fact!
Its all nice Paul... i think we all know that there are some nice and good appz and games out, written in pure... but i am talking about using pure in high end software development for industry / in companies i.e. too!Originally posted by Paul
Here are just a few of the many professional applications that I have written using the PureBasic/PureVision combo:
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/vmshortcuts
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/purevision
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/tlc
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/ccube
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/armtracker
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/anglerpro
We all know, a program is only good as the coder can code and realize his project... But if the SDK (in this case pure) has limitations and it has (!) the best coder cant realize his program as he want/need... or he have to tricks a lot to get it working... In C/C++/C# you dont have all this problems...Originally posted by Paul
Remember, it's not the tools that make the app, but the programmer using the tools.
Originally posted by Paul
Thank you Fred for creating such a wonderful Tool to work with !!
Thanks!
greetz
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by MrVainSCL.
its just my privat opinion and i dont stop to tell it! I only want that ppl can dicusse and Fred will hear and add those stuff... I only want see pure growling and that interested ppl taking a look to pure will see whats possible (and i dont mean games nor 3d)... i mean the stff u know where i dont want told again here!
I know that a lot of ppl whish all the features and the best is if all would show fred that they want and the comunity need it! (even if it may be boring to write again and again about it)
Fred cant read nor hear again and again this words... so why he dont add this features (due fact me is not the only one here)... Just add this and make pure more stable and ppl dont blame nor discusse more about this topic! Thats all
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Hi freak,Originally posted by freak
Hey guy, everybody knows your opinion now!
Please stop telling us over and over again!
(i don't mean you, Paul
Timo
its just my privat opinion and i dont stop to tell it! I only want that ppl can dicusse and Fred will hear and add those stuff... I only want see pure growling and that interested ppl taking a look to pure will see whats possible (and i dont mean games nor 3d)... i mean the stff u know where i dont want told again here!
I know that a lot of ppl whish all the features and the best is if all would show fred that they want and the comunity need it! (even if it may be boring to write again and again about it)
Fred cant read nor hear again and again this words... so why he dont add this features (due fact me is not the only one here)... Just add this and make pure more stable and ppl dont blame nor discusse more about this topic! Thats all
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by MrVainSCL.
greetz
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@Max: At the beginning there where no real limitations for me too... Ok, float/doubles stuff from beginning! Else pure is a really nice language i dont have to disagree this point! Even if you read this hard discussion from me, i dont want to get you nor someone else demotivated nor in fight here!Originally posted by Max.
@ MrVain:
...That said, so far not PureBasic limits me, but me (& my knowledge or using an euphemism: my time) limits what I reach with PureBasic....
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by tranquil.
A very well formed Manuel is missing, and that makes many problems for me. Fred you know that I'm coding a AudioGalaxy Clone, and its nearly completed for release but I often needed to recode it from scratch couse there where many missed informations.
Now this application works fine and after thousend lines of code for server/client I read that strings are not saved in threads. This is not mentioned in the manual and that frustrates me a lot. I'm not motivated enough to completely rewrite the server again and again and again to see that there is another problem existing.
I spend to much time in this project that I possible could realize in VB in some weeks. Sorry, but thats enough atm. I stopped coding in purebasic for a while and I'm now more concentrated of composing music as I done before PB.
Possibe I'm back again in pb4.0.
Cheers
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A very well formed Manuel is missing, and that makes many problems for me. Fred you know that I'm coding a AudioGalaxy Clone, and its nearly completed for release but I often needed to recode it from scratch couse there where many missed informations.
Now this application works fine and after thousend lines of code for server/client I read that strings are not saved in threads. This is not mentioned in the manual and that frustrates me a lot. I'm not motivated enough to completely rewrite the server again and again and again to see that there is another problem existing.
I spend to much time in this project that I possible could realize in VB in some weeks. Sorry, but thats enough atm. I stopped coding in purebasic for a while and I'm now more concentrated of composing music as I done before PB.
Possibe I'm back again in pb4.0.
Cheers
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by freak.
> I only want that ppl can dicusse and Fred will hear and add those stuff...
He heard you, believe me. And he answered you, several Times!
What more do you want?
At the Moment you act like a little Child that want's to get some sweets from his mother, and crys until he get's it.
That's definetly not the right way to go here !!
Timo
> I only want that ppl can dicusse and Fred will hear and add those stuff...
He heard you, believe me. And he answered you, several Times!
What more do you want?
At the Moment you act like a little Child that want's to get some sweets from his mother, and crys until he get's it.
That's definetly not the right way to go here !!
Timo
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by MrVainSCL.
As i wrote... there is a software and hardware company producing high end products for industry and some software for well known big companies. The coders would like to use pure for some small parts but after testing they have had such a bad image of it (first the loved it), that they will never again take a look to this product! This should make you and fred thinking...
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@MAGI: sorry guy, i have a lot of humor but i think that this discussion could help pure and its future when ppl will discusse here and saying there own opinion...Originally posted by MAGI
Mr Vain...
Then, if frustration sets in, ask yourself two questions... what have I missed and what am I doing wrong? It’s not the brush but the artist
As i wrote... there is a software and hardware company producing high end products for industry and some software for well known big companies. The coders would like to use pure for some small parts but after testing they have had such a bad image of it (first the loved it), that they will never again take a look to this product! This should make you and fred thinking...
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Paul.
LOL @ MrVain
I guess you didn't have the time to actually look at any of the links I posted? Two of the software packages listed are marketed for and are currently being used by National Television Broadcasting Companies.
Both of these apps were written in PureBasic and run flawlessly.
They are high-end professional applications designed and used by professional companies (and have a high end price tag to go with them)
I know you have your mind made up about how things should be and there is no way anyone can change that... but at least try not to mix up your personal opinions with fact.
Thank you.
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Originally posted by MrVainSCL
Its all nice Paul... i think we all know that there are some nice and good appz and games out, written in pure... but i am talking about using pure in high end software development for industry / in companies i.e. too!
LOL @ MrVain
I guess you didn't have the time to actually look at any of the links I posted? Two of the software packages listed are marketed for and are currently being used by National Television Broadcasting Companies.
Both of these apps were written in PureBasic and run flawlessly.
They are high-end professional applications designed and used by professional companies (and have a high end price tag to go with them)
I know you have your mind made up about how things should be and there is no way anyone can change that... but at least try not to mix up your personal opinions with fact.
Thank you.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by MrVainSCL.
Only on this way we could have luck to get some more pro coders (maybe from software houses) to pure too! Its an image...
Btw du fact "its not the right way here"... I think its not the right way to close just only a topic where ppl could discusse and some active ppl and newbies could think about this all and failed demotivated - so just close it!
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@Timo: sorry men, may be that fred heared it (sure, he even closed the topic but has he said something to the features ppl discuseed about? Why cant he add a todo list or something and as he wrote about resources... this isnt planed for future)! I think a forum/topic is to discuse and split his opinions with others... I dont need any kisses or whatever from a mother or someone here! I only want that we (YOU!) have a more stable version and supporting the stuff ppl are waiting since over a year!Originally posted by freak
He heard you, believe me. And he answered you, several Times!
What more do you want?
At the Moment you act like a little Child that want's to get some sweets from his mother, and crys until he get's it.
That's definetly not the right way to go here !!
Only on this way we could have luck to get some more pro coders (maybe from software houses) to pure too! Its an image...
Btw du fact "its not the right way here"... I think its not the right way to close just only a topic where ppl could discusse and some active ppl and newbies could think about this all and failed demotivated - so just close it!
greetz
MrVainSCL! aka Thorsten
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by MrVainSCL.
greetz
MrVainSCL! aka Thorsten
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@Paul: i have already seen it and we talked about it some time ago! Really big respect! When i am talking about professional software i am talkong from the point of the companie where i work atm... Doubles/Floats, Resources, Bugs... (this is the last time to write this words)...Both of these apps were written in PureBasic and run flawlessly.
They are high-end professional applications designed and used by professional companies (and have a high end price tag to go with them)
greetz
MrVainSCL! aka Thorsten
PIII450, 256MB Ram, 80GB HD + 6,4 GB, RivaTNT, DirectX9.0, SB AWE64, Win2000 + all Updates...