Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ricardo.
Hi,
I found this on internet and remember many posts talking about crack and ways to reduce it, this is maybe some new way:
http://www.nukepirates.com/
They promise to kill any site that offers a crack for your software in 48 hrs (maybe a little more in some cases)...
Does anybody knows if this kind of service is good?
As i said before remember some posts here in the forum when i read thiswebsite and decide to ask your opinion, maybe this is some alternative weapon to fight with cracks.
On the other hand, i read in some forum that a user recommend to search all the sites that offers serials or cracks of your software, and add the to the 'hosts' file of the users of your software, then if the user want to find a crack... cant load the page that offers it. Its not magic, but could make it a little more difficult.
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Ricardo
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Kill crack sites?
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Berikco.
Better send the money to me....same result for you
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Berikco
http://www.benny.zeb.be/purebasic.htm
Better send the money to me....same result for you
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Berikco
http://www.benny.zeb.be/purebasic.htm
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ricardo.
Most crack sites (the real big ones that has cracks for everything, not the small-lame ones) are trying to make money, not working as a hobby... the trick is to display adds and porno stuff...
If the crack 'industrie' was killed from websites and just pushed to newsgroups, IRC and P2P... it will loose a lot.
Kill a site isnt in fact difficult, but you have to get the time to get the IP and then get, or the ISP provider or the server, etc. and send them a letter/fax/e mail asking to kill the site and usually they kill it.
The situation here is to do-yourself the job or pay someone else to do it.
Even i found some forum where some developers are taking a more agresive strategy:
developing cracks of their software and distributing them in warez/crack sites under an nick (the typical and ridiculous nicks of the crackers)... those cracks will hurt the PC of the users.
Its surprising that people download executables from such darñ sites... its not difficult to make that people think it twice before download and run something from newsgroups, p2p, warez-sites.
As fas as i know, a trick similar to this start the virus on internet: trying to fight with piracy. In those time they was figthing with the copies on floopy disk.
The day i found some keygenerator to my software, i will develope my own fake keygenerator and upload it to warez sites using some 'warrior' nick he he
Im just dreaming, not really doing nothing : )
Best Regards
Ricardo
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Mmmmm... im not sure.Because people will just get the crack from newsgroups,
IRC, and P2P software instead.
Most crack sites (the real big ones that has cracks for everything, not the small-lame ones) are trying to make money, not working as a hobby... the trick is to display adds and porno stuff...
If the crack 'industrie' was killed from websites and just pushed to newsgroups, IRC and P2P... it will loose a lot.
Kill a site isnt in fact difficult, but you have to get the time to get the IP and then get, or the ISP provider or the server, etc. and send them a letter/fax/e mail asking to kill the site and usually they kill it.
The situation here is to do-yourself the job or pay someone else to do it.
Even i found some forum where some developers are taking a more agresive strategy:
developing cracks of their software and distributing them in warez/crack sites under an nick (the typical and ridiculous nicks of the crackers)... those cracks will hurt the PC of the users.
Its surprising that people download executables from such darñ sites... its not difficult to make that people think it twice before download and run something from newsgroups, p2p, warez-sites.
As fas as i know, a trick similar to this start the virus on internet: trying to fight with piracy. In those time they was figthing with the copies on floopy disk.
The day i found some keygenerator to my software, i will develope my own fake keygenerator and upload it to warez sites using some 'warrior' nick he he
Im just dreaming, not really doing nothing : )
Best Regards
Ricardo
Dont cry for me Argentina...
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by koehler.
Originally posted by ricardo
As fas as i know, a trick similar to this start the virus on internet: trying to fight with piracy. In those time they was figthing with the copies on floopy disk.
The day i found some keygenerator to my software, i will develope my own fake keygenerator and upload it to warez sites using some 'warrior' nick he he [/i]
You know, I have used cracks in the past, so I'm not claiming to be an angel or anything. However, anyone who goes out of their way to create a virus, or trojan, -even if- it is only targeted at hackers and crackers, is looking for trouble.
And big trouble at that. An author certainly could find himself in front of a judge/bailiff, and saying that he was simply 'getting back at the hackers and crackers' won't cut it in many courts.
And, it really isn't that easy to hide nowadays on the net, so don't think you would be so anonymous.
If you are a student, with no collateral, property or savings, then you don't have much to lose. However several people -have- been caught doing such things, and they've lost their jobs and houses, etc.
Like I said, I'm not going to lie and say I haven't used a crack now and then, however even if I were to write a killer shareware game, I have too much to lose now going about being a vigilante.
Just something to think about.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ricardo.
@PB
Koeler post is inside the quote.
@Koeler
1.- I was only dreaming as i said
2.- However you can develop just a joke to scare the user simulating (just simulating) that you are deleting the entire HD and at the final let him know that if he is running crap from crap sites one time it will be more than a joke.
¿Did you think anyone could loose their job or house doing this?
Its possible to give the message without hurting anyone
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@PB
Koeler post is inside the quote.
@Koeler
1.- I was only dreaming as i said
2.- However you can develop just a joke to scare the user simulating (just simulating) that you are deleting the entire HD and at the final let him know that if he is running crap from crap sites one time it will be more than a joke.
¿Did you think anyone could loose their job or house doing this?
Its possible to give the message without hurting anyone
Best Regards
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.
> I have used cracks in the past, so I'm not claiming to be an angel
> or anything.
I use dozens of cracks just so I can play my purchased games without
needing the CD in the drive. Technically, if the crack app doesn't
contain any of the game's actual code, then it's NOT illegal to use.
> I have used cracks in the past, so I'm not claiming to be an angel
> or anything.
I use dozens of cracks just so I can play my purchased games without
needing the CD in the drive. Technically, if the crack app doesn't
contain any of the game's actual code, then it's NOT illegal to use.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ricardo.
Cracks are unethical however you see it. I think that EVERY licence and every developer are against cracks of his software.
Do you think that Fred will be happy if some cracked version of PureBasic appears outthere? will be honest or right to distribute it or to use it?
The only answer is NO.
Everybody seams to be agree that spam is annoying.. wel, cracks are not only annoying, are illegal.
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Technically its NOT illegal to shut a gun, its illegal to kill some one!!!Technically, if the crack app doesn't
contain any of the game's actual code, then it's NOT illegal to use.
Cracks are unethical however you see it. I think that EVERY licence and every developer are against cracks of his software.
Do you think that Fred will be happy if some cracked version of PureBasic appears outthere? will be honest or right to distribute it or to use it?
The only answer is NO.
Everybody seams to be agree that spam is annoying.. wel, cracks are not only annoying, are illegal.
Best Regards
Ricardo
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.
> Cracks are unethical however you see it.
Most people would probably say that. So, we're all supposed to stop
using our software because our CD-ROM dies, or we can't find the CD,
or the CD gets scratched? What then? Pay the developer AGAIN for a
new CD? No thanks -- I'll just use a NoCD crack, thanks. After all,
I paid for the CD, so I can use it however I like.
Do you also think that Virtual CD products are illegal too? Because
they let you play a game without the CD being in the CD-ROM drive...
and they also let people install illegal copies of games too. Should
these apps be banned or considered illegal then? Of course not, yet
they achieve the same end result as using a crack.
> Cracks are unethical however you see it.
Most people would probably say that. So, we're all supposed to stop
using our software because our CD-ROM dies, or we can't find the CD,
or the CD gets scratched? What then? Pay the developer AGAIN for a
new CD? No thanks -- I'll just use a NoCD crack, thanks. After all,
I paid for the CD, so I can use it however I like.
Do you also think that Virtual CD products are illegal too? Because
they let you play a game without the CD being in the CD-ROM drive...
and they also let people install illegal copies of games too. Should
these apps be banned or considered illegal then? Of course not, yet
they achieve the same end result as using a crack.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by TheBeck.
They made hard drives so you wouldn't have to swap media all the time. God I hate copy protection, and the DMCA. The feds are knocking down my door because I put my CD collection on my hard disk. I hate it when a company makes my life harder to stop me from committing a crime I have not and will not commit. I hate it! Oh, and you think I want to pay $22.95 for your CD?! And you, RIAA, wonder why sales are down? I will tell you one thing, you can keep you damn copy protected, over priced, artistic freedom stifling music! I WON'T PAY FOR THIS SH*T! Ah, that felt good.
Nathan Beckstrand - Calling from the great Pacific Northwest -=USA=-
They made hard drives so you wouldn't have to swap media all the time. God I hate copy protection, and the DMCA. The feds are knocking down my door because I put my CD collection on my hard disk. I hate it when a company makes my life harder to stop me from committing a crime I have not and will not commit. I hate it! Oh, and you think I want to pay $22.95 for your CD?! And you, RIAA, wonder why sales are down? I will tell you one thing, you can keep you damn copy protected, over priced, artistic freedom stifling music! I WON'T PAY FOR THIS SH*T! Ah, that felt good.
Nathan Beckstrand - Calling from the great Pacific Northwest -=USA=-
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Stan.
Hi,
Very interesting discussion, my two cents there : I think there are 3 kinds of cracks
users :
- those who use cracks to use a program without paying for it (or just to have
a copy to exchange ...) these are plain thieves, they must be tracked and arrested,
no idea on how it can be done however ...
- those who want to try before buying and use a crack to do it (I admit I did it
sometimes, just because I couldn't afford to buy 2 $500 programs and couldn't find
an other way to try them, it was certainly illegal but not unethical from my point
of view because in the end I bought one of the program and deleted the other from my
HDD). These people provided a demo version is available won't look for a crack as they
just want to make sure the software is useful (this is how and why I bought Pure Basic
and many other software). Providing a demo would cut cracking a lot there.
- those who like me have paid for programs which use a bad protection method : I work part
time as a musician and arranger and I use some programs that need the CD to be in the
drive to work or a hardware dongle ... (as I use a laptop with only 2 USB ports I must also
either use cracked, No-CD or Virtual CD copies). I know it is illegal (at least for cracked
or No-CD copies), but if I don't I have paid for a software I can't use ... I wrote to
software companies about that, asking to have a version that I can really use or be reimbursed
as the software was unable to fulfill its promise : no response ... IMHO many software
companies are complaining about piracy when on the other hand they leave their honest buyers
in the cold ...
Bests.
Stan.
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Hi,
Very interesting discussion, my two cents there : I think there are 3 kinds of cracks
users :
- those who use cracks to use a program without paying for it (or just to have
a copy to exchange ...) these are plain thieves, they must be tracked and arrested,
no idea on how it can be done however ...
- those who want to try before buying and use a crack to do it (I admit I did it
sometimes, just because I couldn't afford to buy 2 $500 programs and couldn't find
an other way to try them, it was certainly illegal but not unethical from my point
of view because in the end I bought one of the program and deleted the other from my
HDD). These people provided a demo version is available won't look for a crack as they
just want to make sure the software is useful (this is how and why I bought Pure Basic
and many other software). Providing a demo would cut cracking a lot there.
- those who like me have paid for programs which use a bad protection method : I work part
time as a musician and arranger and I use some programs that need the CD to be in the
drive to work or a hardware dongle ... (as I use a laptop with only 2 USB ports I must also
either use cracked, No-CD or Virtual CD copies). I know it is illegal (at least for cracked
or No-CD copies), but if I don't I have paid for a software I can't use ... I wrote to
software companies about that, asking to have a version that I can really use or be reimbursed
as the software was unable to fulfill its promise : no response ... IMHO many software
companies are complaining about piracy when on the other hand they leave their honest buyers
in the cold ...
Bests.
Stan.
Since I attended an MS course, my programs no longer have bugs ... just hidden "features" !! [ PB. registered user ]