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[Mohawk70]

Google Transfers Patents to HTC, Enabling them to Sue Apple


Google Buys Zagat

[GWarner]

Sounds to me like Google, like me, doesn't like Apple either!

[the.weavster]

Sounds to me like Google, like me, doesn't like Apple either!

Goodness, how could you say such a thing?
If Apple hadn't cracked the enigma code we'd all be Nazis now!
...that was my best Apple fanboi impersonation :¬)

[Mohawk70]

Sounds to me like Google, like me, doesn't like Apple either!

+1

[USCode]

Many people tend to dislike the top dog, no matter WHO it is ...

[GWarner]

I don't dislike Apple because they might be the top dog, which they aren't. I dislike them because of their monopolistic sole source attitudes and the way they try to limit consumer choice, and because Steve Jobs is a class A, number 1, ***hole that I will do nothing that benefits him in any way.

When he is dead and buried, then I might consider buying Apple products, but even then Apple as a company would have to make some pretty drastic changes first and I don't see that happening any time soon.

Microsoft is current the top dog IMO and I have no quarrel with them nor any qualms about supporting them.

[the.weavster]

Microsoft is current the top dog IMO and I have no quarrel with them nor any qualms about supporting them.

Those b'stards shafted NOKIA! When Ballmer/Elop officially announce the M$ take-over (or rescue package as they'll be describing it by then) I really hope the EU steps in and gives M$ a seriously good kicking.

[GWarner]

The EU can scream all it wants and even block Microsoft from selling over there. The real question then becomes, where does that leave all the people in the EU that want Microsoft products?

We may have an overly large and often corrupt government but at least our government isn't trying to decide for us what products we can and can't have.

[Mohawk70]

. . . snip . . . I don't dislike Apple because they might be the top dog, . . . snip . . .

I stopped liking Apple back at the end of the Apple 2 series era. At that time I liked Apple because of the open nature
of the hardware side of their systems, I had the choice of adding 3rd party internal boards to make my system the way I
wanted it to be. They killed that flexibility with the modern Macs. Apple just doesn't have the same ( spirit ??? ) that
it did in the early days, which is what drew me to them in the first place. They do put out some amazing products, not
counting the closed nature of them though. I'm not an Apple 'hater' - I'm just not a fan.

Microsoft is current the top dog IMO and I have no quarrel with them nor any qualms about supporting them.

On the other hand, the same goes for Microsoft - and I'm not a Microsoft fan either !

[Tenaja]

I stopped liking Apple back at the end of the Apple 2 series era. At that time I liked Apple because of the open nature
of the hardware side of their systems, I had the choice of adding 3rd party internal boards to make my system the way I
wanted it to be. They killed that flexibility with the modern Macs. Apple just doesn't have the same ( spirit ??? ) that
it did in the early days, which is what drew me to them in the first place. They do put out some amazing products, not
counting the closed nature of them though. I'm not an Apple 'hater' - I'm just not a fan.

Ditto. I loved my apple 2+...read everything I could about it, and hacked it to heaven and back. I had all kinds of added chips, wires, and boards added to it. Try that with a mac...

Apple lost their spirit with the departure of Woz. Or maybe that was the reason he left. Jobs is good at defining idiot-proof garbage. Woz was good at making great stuff.

[the.weavster]

The EU can scream all it wants and even block Microsoft from selling over there. The real question then becomes, where does that leave all the people in the EU that want Microsoft products?

The EU can do more than just scream as M$ already well know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_U ... ition_case. M$ products are still available to anyone in the EU who feels the need.

The frustrating thing with NOKIA is that any EU action is now going to be far too late, thousands of European jobs have already been lost, Finland's economy is being wrecked and consumers have lost the option of a manufacturer that had quite an open ethos - supporting open source and liberty from walled gardens. Now, instead, we'll just have one more vile Apple wanna-be.

We may have an overly large and often corrupt government but at least our government isn't trying to decide for us what products we can and can't have.

Wouldn't you also like the choice to do what the hell you like with any product you've purchased? Install whatever software you like, purchased from whatever app store you like?

Without companies like the pre M$ NOKIA your 'post pc devices' will not only control what software you can install and where you can buy it, they could even control what web sites you can visit, what publications you can download, etc...

The more other companies try to mimic Apple the more limited our choices become.

[GWarner]

I stopped liking Apple back at the end of the Apple 2 series era. At that time I liked Apple because of the open nature of the hardware side of their systems, I had the choice of adding 3rd party internal boards to make my system the way I wanted it to be. They killed that flexibility with the modern Macs. Apple just doesn't have the same ( spirit ??? ) that it did in the early days, which is what drew me to them in the first place.

Same here, and most, if not all, of the blame for it can be laid at Steve Jobs' feet. He was so pro Mac because it was he "baby" and so anti Apple 2 because it wasn't, that he started a civil war within the company that nearly tore the company apart. It was Jobs' idea to shut down the mail order sale of Apple products by requiring all Apple dealers to have a store front and a service department. A lot of companies went out of business and a lot of people lost their jobs because of that but Jobs didn't care. He did a bunch of other things that hurt people for his own gain or for no reason at all except to prove how big a jerk he could be.

Apple lost their spirit with the departure of Woz. Or maybe that was the reason he left. Jobs is good at defining idiot-proof garbage. Woz was good at making great stuff.

Wozniak left Apple, never to return, after Jobs alienated him by hiring a bunch of bureaucratic corporate type engineers to design the Apple 3. Again Jobs shows his true jerk nature by alienating the one person responsible for his good fortune. Without Wozniak, Jobs would have probably ended up just another college drop-out. Wozniak at least went back and finished college but I don't think that Jobs ever did. Nice way to say Thank you but then that was the way Jobs was and is.

Wouldn't you also like the choice to do what the hell you like with any product you've purchased? Install whatever software you like, purchased from whatever app store you like?

Sure! But then I already have it, I can go into any store and by any program and install it whenever I want. So what's the problem? Or is it that this is just your problem?

Without companies like the pre M$ NOKIA your 'post pc devices' will not only control what software you can install and where you can buy it, they could even control what web sites you can visit, what publications you can download, etc...

Your opinion, and yet to be proven, and probably never will be.

[the.weavster]

Wouldn't you also like the choice to do what the hell you like with any product you've purchased? Install whatever software you like, purchased from whatever app store you like?

Sure! But then I already have it, I can go into any store and by any program and install it whenever I want. So what's the problem? Or is it that this is just your problem?

You can with a Windows PC but you can't with a WP7 device, M$ are copying the Apple walled-garden model. Once NOKIA have been moved over from Symbian to WP7 the ability to develop your own software and install it on your own NOKIA smart phone without any involvement of any third party will be gone.

Windows 8 is supposed to be a universal OS, PCs, tablets and smart phones will all run the same OS, so which way will M$ go then? Will you have to get your PureBasic program signed and approved by M$ before you can install it on your own Windows 8 device?

Samsung are copying the Apple model too, you can not install software on a Bada device without it first having Samsung's approval.

Without companies like the pre M$ NOKIA your 'post pc devices' will not only control what software you can install and where you can buy it, they could even control what web sites you can visit, what publications you can download, etc...

Your opinion, and yet to be proven, and probably never will be.

It's already happening to the devotees of the cult of Apple. As Apple will not allow Flash or SilverLight to run on their devices their customers are restricted to a sub-set of the internet. Not allowing these programs to be installed on iThings is a political decision by Apple, it's not a technical issue. Apple have also been in dispute with publishers because they want to restrict iThing users to only being able to purchase content through their own store, not only do they want the profit on the sale of any content they want control of the customer data too.

[Foz]

If Windows 8 does go the way of "You can only install pre-approved applications" then I will be forever moving to Linux.

Well, until a game I really want comes out on Steam...

[DarkDragon]

Google buys Apple. Google buys Microsoft. Google buys Fantaisie Software. ... I really hope they buy the governments all over the world.