Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
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Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
Does anybody know what country Fantaisie Software resides in?
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Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
Good question - surprisingly, not identified on the website
I think it's France, because a French cheque can be accepted for payment and PB is to programming as Zinidine Zidane is to total football.

I think it's France, because a French cheque can be accepted for payment and PB is to programming as Zinidine Zidane is to total football.
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Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
IdeasVacuum wrote:Good question - surprisingly, not identified on the website![]()
I think it's France, because a French cheque can be accepted for payment and PB is to programming as Zinidine Zidane is to total football.
Very curious matter. Google don't know either. Does Bib Ladin use PureBasic? One would think that a company this big would want investors to know where to send the check.
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Ah, it is on the support page: http://www.purebasic.com/support.php
FANTAISIE SOFTWARE
10, rue de Lausanne
67640 FEGERSHEIM
FRANCE
....it seems that Zidane could be a secret developer
FANTAISIE SOFTWARE
10, rue de Lausanne
67640 FEGERSHEIM
FRANCE
....it seems that Zidane could be a secret developer

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If it sounds simple, you have not grasped the complexity.
If it sounds simple, you have not grasped the complexity.
Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
Egypt... Fred is the next door to me
Really, does it matter?!
Well, a guy in another programming language forums said 'I will go with the programming language made in the US' when someone compared that language to PureBasic, which is very weird!
That guy philosophy is very enlightening and can help people make great decisions...LOL
Even better it can save many developers like Fred (who are not US native) a lot of time and effort and help them to stop or not even start any new projects because they are not welcomed and no chance for them against US programmers.
Last but not least :
My car is from Germany.
My Father's Car is from Japan.
My Programming Language is from France, Newzeland and errrrr US!
My clothes are from Egypt.
My PC is from China, even my Mac and iPhone are assembled in China.
My Samsung Galaxy Tab is from Korea.
My native Language is Arabic.
My name is Maher, I am a Muslim and I am NOT a terrorist.
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Really, does it matter?!
Well, a guy in another programming language forums said 'I will go with the programming language made in the US' when someone compared that language to PureBasic, which is very weird!
That guy philosophy is very enlightening and can help people make great decisions...LOL
Even better it can save many developers like Fred (who are not US native) a lot of time and effort and help them to stop or not even start any new projects because they are not welcomed and no chance for them against US programmers.
Last but not least :
My car is from Germany.
My Father's Car is from Japan.
My Programming Language is from France, Newzeland and errrrr US!
My clothes are from Egypt.
My PC is from China, even my Mac and iPhone are assembled in China.
My Samsung Galaxy Tab is from Korea.
My native Language is Arabic.
My name is Maher, I am a Muslim and I am NOT a terrorist.
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Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
...It is regarded as a 'good thing' if a vendor publishes their address on their website - it means they are not hiding from their customers.
So sphinx, you are not a terrorist, but you are an iPhone User ...aaaargh!
Top quality gadget!
So sphinx, you are not a terrorist, but you are an iPhone User ...aaaargh!
My Mrs was made in ChinaMy PC is from China

IdeasVacuum
If it sounds simple, you have not grasped the complexity.
If it sounds simple, you have not grasped the complexity.
Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
Hold on there Sphinx dude!
The goofball who only considers US programming languages is definitely NOT the majority.
I'd say the US market for PureBasic is huge.
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My and many of your freedoms are from the USA!
What products would you consider from North Korea?
Thanks for not being a terrorist...
But you must also continue to develop your awareness and understanding of all the world's peoples and embrace their freedom to completely and utterly disagree with you.
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The goofball who only considers US programming languages is definitely NOT the majority.
I'd say the US market for PureBasic is huge.
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My and many of your freedoms are from the USA!
What products would you consider from North Korea?

Thanks for not being a terrorist...

But you must also continue to develop your awareness and understanding of all the world's peoples and embrace their freedom to completely and utterly disagree with you.
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Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
Well skywalk, I'm not a politician but I can safely say that many people outside of the USA would not completely agree with you about 'many of your freedoms are from the USA'. Sphinx was not being derogatory about the USA, he/she was simply saying that there are better ways to judge the value of something other than it's country of origin. That's a positive message that I and my fellow Europeans should listen to, too.
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If it sounds simple, you have not grasped the complexity.
If it sounds simple, you have not grasped the complexity.
Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
@IdeasVacuum - I am no politician either(quite the opposite really), but I can read between the lines.
Or, right out in black and white...
Aside...
I do not require a large mechanism to count the number of foreign soldiers buried in my country sent here to defend my freedom.

Or, right out in black and white...
Best to let Sphinx answer his own intent.sphinx wrote:My Programming Language is from France, Newzeland and errrrr US!
Aside...
I do not require a large mechanism to count the number of foreign soldiers buried in my country sent here to defend my freedom.
The nice thing about standards is there are so many to choose from. ~ Andrew Tanenbaum
Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
Off topic:
Coming from a proud American -- a lot of people in the world(including Americans) don't seem to understand that America is basically everyone from every possible nationality smashed up into one big ball of land. So if you dislike Americans(and vice versa) you are only disliking your own nationality.
I personally am proud of my heritage like many others in the world are proud of their own heritage too. There is nothing wrong with having pride in who you are.
This topic isn't really the place to discuss where a person is from or to demean him or her for any reason. I don't think sphinx was trying to belittle the USA at all, he most likely did not meant to come off harsh in any way.
On topic:
The address of the location of this wonderful programming language can be found here.
Coming from a proud American -- a lot of people in the world(including Americans) don't seem to understand that America is basically everyone from every possible nationality smashed up into one big ball of land. So if you dislike Americans(and vice versa) you are only disliking your own nationality.
I personally am proud of my heritage like many others in the world are proud of their own heritage too. There is nothing wrong with having pride in who you are.

This topic isn't really the place to discuss where a person is from or to demean him or her for any reason. I don't think sphinx was trying to belittle the USA at all, he most likely did not meant to come off harsh in any way.
On topic:
The address of the location of this wonderful programming language can be found here.
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Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
Thanks IdeasVaccum, this is exactly what I intended to say in the first place.IdeasVacuum wrote:Sphinx was not being derogatory about the USA, he/she was simply saying that there are better ways to judge the value of something other than it's country of origin. That's a positive message that I and my fellow Europeans should listen to, too.
I have nothing against American people (actually I have many good friends from the US and I am sure Americans are good people, well, most of them like many other countries!)
By the way IdeasVaccum, I am 'He'

Again, thanks Nituvious to read correctly what I was thinking everybody will do read and understand correctly too.I don't think sphinx was trying to belittle the USA at all, he most likely did not meant to come off harsh in any way.
Anyway, I am sorry if it sounded harsh for anyone but my intention was the exact same opposite.
Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
Thanks Sphinx!
I am encouraged by your reply.
I am encouraged by your reply.

Re: Germany, France, Great Britan, or Other?
I stumbled upon PureBasic over two years ago and when I first tried it out, I fell in love with it. Fred has done a great job and he has stuck with it--both 32-bit and 64-bit versions.
Sometimes when programming for the U.S. Defense Department, I'm not allowed to use software produced outside the US when programming sensitive code. However, for the most part, PB is solid and comprehensive, and I use it alot.
In general, I enjoy the international flavor of the PB language and the forum. The diversity is good and I think PB leverages this diversity to good advantage. Interacting with others from all over the world brings a much richer experience than would otherwise be possible.
In the workplace, I've worked with a number of Egyptions and they are great people and in general, very reasonable supporters of Western products such as PB, etc. When I was in the Army, I had two close Iranian friends that trained with us. When the Shaw was overthrown back in the 70's, my two friends were shot by the incoming regime, as were a number of their fellow countrymen. I miss them since we often corresponded with each other after they went home.
Anyway, I lived in Germany for five years while in the Army and often visited the UK, France, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Austria, Italy, Greece, Turkey, and so forth and wouldn't trade those memories for anything. Every country had great things to offer and I liked the various cultures, food, and products each offered. I even got to go through Egypt, Iraq, and other Middle-Eastern Countries back in the early nineties. Very beautiful places with people aspiring for the same things we want. I felt very welcome everywhere I traveled.
I've traveled Canada and Mexico extensively for both business and pleasure and love both countries. Next year my wife and I want to go down under and visit Australia and New Zealand. Can't wait.
Here's to all the friends I've made all over the world. I wouldn't trade them for anything.
Logman
Sometimes when programming for the U.S. Defense Department, I'm not allowed to use software produced outside the US when programming sensitive code. However, for the most part, PB is solid and comprehensive, and I use it alot.
In general, I enjoy the international flavor of the PB language and the forum. The diversity is good and I think PB leverages this diversity to good advantage. Interacting with others from all over the world brings a much richer experience than would otherwise be possible.
In the workplace, I've worked with a number of Egyptions and they are great people and in general, very reasonable supporters of Western products such as PB, etc. When I was in the Army, I had two close Iranian friends that trained with us. When the Shaw was overthrown back in the 70's, my two friends were shot by the incoming regime, as were a number of their fellow countrymen. I miss them since we often corresponded with each other after they went home.
Anyway, I lived in Germany for five years while in the Army and often visited the UK, France, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Austria, Italy, Greece, Turkey, and so forth and wouldn't trade those memories for anything. Every country had great things to offer and I liked the various cultures, food, and products each offered. I even got to go through Egypt, Iraq, and other Middle-Eastern Countries back in the early nineties. Very beautiful places with people aspiring for the same things we want. I felt very welcome everywhere I traveled.
I've traveled Canada and Mexico extensively for both business and pleasure and love both countries. Next year my wife and I want to go down under and visit Australia and New Zealand. Can't wait.
Here's to all the friends I've made all over the world. I wouldn't trade them for anything.
Logman
