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Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:35 pm
by DoubleDutch
Looks like Ionic Wind is going...

http://www.ionicwind.com/forums/index.p ... 823.0.html

This is only a few days after announcing a new lib for the program!

Personally I think Mr Turley is a bit of an ego manic (with a bit of manic depressive thrown in for good measure) and wants the attention of people saying 'please stay', etc...

If he had any thanks for the mugs who have supported him for the past (19?) years then he should make the code he is abandoning open-source.

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:52 pm
by Thorium
DoubleDutch wrote: then he should make the code he is abandoning open-source.
At least it is included in the special offer.
Aurora no longer belongs to me. The source for Emergence and the Creative runtime are included in "Everything"

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:04 pm
by ts-soft
What is about lifetime support :mrgreen:
What is with the many beta programs, the have people paid for and will never be finished.
Thorium wrote: At least it is included in the special offer.
this offer is for the arse.
Well this is closed the site, before Paul Turley cheats even more people.

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:56 pm
by blueznl
Mods, please lock this thread.

People, this site is not about other langauges, it's about PureBasic. And though some of us may have well founded... euh... doubts and thoughts about Ionic whatever and their (former) products, this is not the place to vent them, I think.

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:48 pm
by utopiomania
blueznl wrote:
People, this site is not about other langauges, it's about PureBasic.
He posted in the Off Topic section, and as you should know:
For everything that's not in any way related to PureBasic. General chat etc...
I don't like mr.Paul Turley, but I do like many of his followers, and how he can do this to them is
beyond me. Unbelievable.

Sorry for his fans, but not for him.

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:58 pm
by blueznl
Perhaps the one thing that should not be discussed, not even in the off-topic section, is other programming languages and their (dis)advantages as these things always seem to end up in attacks, flamewars, and the like...

A programming language can be too close to a religion, I guess :-)

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:06 am
by ts-soft
This discussion goes not about another computer language, but about the Business of Mr. Turley.

see here: http://www.codingmonkeys.com/index.php? ... ;topicseen

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:38 am
by UserOfPure
DoubleDutch wrote:Personally I think Mr Turley is a bit of an ego manic (with a bit of manic depressive thrown in for good measure)
+1, +1, +1 :lol:

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:05 am
by luis
"Until the site closes these forums will remain open for viewing only. No new posts or PM's will be allowed."

In other words: no discussion about this, no opinions, no recriminations, no exchange between users, no "where we could meet again now to help each other ?".

Go all to hell and stay there.

That's how I read the thing.

I know this thread will be locked and like all of you I should have kept my mouth shut (only for the reason Fred made clear in the past he doesn't approve this kind of thread), but I really felt the absolute, visceral need to underscore that.

Kill me if you wish.

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:45 am
by Rook Zimbabwe
I know this thread will be locked and like all of you I should have kept my mouth shut (only for the reason Fred made clear in the past he doesn't approve this kind of thread), but I really felt the absolute, visceral need to underscore that.
Actually I stand with Luis on this!

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:14 am
by rsts
Actually, this serves to make us realize how lucky we are to be with Fred :D

After the way Paul treated his first group of customers and subsequent business buyer, people should have had an idea.

cheers to Fred and Co.

:D :D

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:34 am
by Rings
perhaps we should save all those shipwrecked
Emergence-Coders
here on the Purebasic-Speedboat ?

thx for the link doubledutch.
i will have a eye on this topic
and close it if it becomes a flamewar.

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:54 am
by Fred
You can count on me on the this one as well, Rings ;).

The off topic section

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:22 am
by codewalker
Hi
Some individuals see a flamewar coming even if everything is still cool.
The post about ionic wind is usefull to learn about busines life cycles,
which to my opinion fits normally in the off topic section.

I like this forum so much because it's openminded with a lot of helpful
people. It even advertises now for powerbasic which is progressive and
I think that is a good thing. And what if a flamewar really should start ?
They allways die out by themselves because most of us here simply hook
off when things become too hot. I found a lot of interesting info and links
in the off-topic section and I really hope it will never get narrowed down
in any way.
Greetings
cw

Re: Goodbye Ionic Wind...

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:12 am
by DoubleDutch
thx for the link doubledutch.
Rings: No problem, call it a late Christmas present. ;)

I had an email in November from Mr Turley about his new .net executable target switch for Emergence Basic and was actually quite interested in what the results would be like. He was asking for $35 to fund the side project! I didn't contribute, but if he has been 'considering for a very long time' quiting the business then surely he should give the contributers their money back?