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Hi,
I will continue the Visual IDE, but need some help. Not in the coding of the IDE itself, into the Pure Basic code, in the functions.
I accept any idea, BUT i need the Pure Basic code...
I mean: i need the code that will be generated by the IDE.
One example:
If some one suggest to add the Network function as an object (yes, many function could be trated as an object!!), im agree... but i will need help to develop all the code (and the different variations) that will be generated by the IDE.
Everyone could colaborate with different objects or functions, nobody needs to collaborate in ALL, just help me in those object or function that you like to see in the next release.
How says: OK?
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ricardo.
I don't understand, some want me to continue the Visual IDE but nobody helps???
At least make a wish list
Otherwise i will think that everything its done and nobody need any addition/change, etc.
Don't make me feel that he IDE are perfect ha ha
Give me ideas please
Thanks
Ricardo Arias
I don't understand, some want me to continue the Visual IDE but nobody helps???
At least make a wish list
Otherwise i will think that everything its done and nobody need any addition/change, etc.
Don't make me feel that he IDE are perfect ha ha
Give me ideas please
Thanks
Ricardo Arias
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by AndrewC.
Ricardo
I quite understand, I asked about an IDE and better editor but there was no interest.
I would assume people are happy doing things the hard way and do something that you enjoy.
It's a shame, because you had obviously put a lot of effort into the ameneded RapidQ IDE.
Personally I find PureBasic idiosyncratic, with iratic syntax, badly documented, and generally a pain to use. A good IDE would have kept me using it.
Andrew
Ricardo
I quite understand, I asked about an IDE and better editor but there was no interest.
I would assume people are happy doing things the hard way and do something that you enjoy.
It's a shame, because you had obviously put a lot of effort into the ameneded RapidQ IDE.
Personally I find PureBasic idiosyncratic, with iratic syntax, badly documented, and generally a pain to use. A good IDE would have kept me using it.
Andrew
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Paul.
OK, here is a wishlist...
-Support for ALL the Gadgets (panels, frames, progress bars, etc.)
-Make the constants more useful
Your code generates:
#TextGagdet1=1
#StringGadget1=2
#ButtonGadget1=3
and then generates:
TextGadget(1,10,10,20,10,"Hello")
StringGadget(2,10,40,20,10,"")
ButtonGadget(3,10,70,20,10,"Ok")
It would be way more useful to generate:
TextGadget(#TextGadget1,10,10,20,10,"Hello")
StringGadget(#StringGadget1,10,40,20,10,"")
ButtonGadget(#ButtonGadget1,10,70,20,10,"Ok")
-Be able to assign a tabbing order instead of the order the gadgets are placed on the form.
That's a start!
OK, here is a wishlist...
-Support for ALL the Gadgets (panels, frames, progress bars, etc.)
-Make the constants more useful
Your code generates:
#TextGagdet1=1
#StringGadget1=2
#ButtonGadget1=3
and then generates:
TextGadget(1,10,10,20,10,"Hello")
StringGadget(2,10,40,20,10,"")
ButtonGadget(3,10,70,20,10,"Ok")
It would be way more useful to generate:
TextGadget(#TextGadget1,10,10,20,10,"Hello")
StringGadget(#StringGadget1,10,40,20,10,"")
ButtonGadget(#ButtonGadget1,10,70,20,10,"Ok")
-Be able to assign a tabbing order instead of the order the gadgets are placed on the form.
That's a start!
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ricardo.
Per example, Paul gives me a good wishes, thats exactly what i need: concrete wishes.
Thanks
Well, i never try to 'ameneded' nothing... i just want to share and learn myself a little amd was very fun to code it.It's a shame, because you had obviously put a lot of effort into the ameneded RapidQ IDE.
Ha ha i don't understand your words (my bad english again), Personally i look the good things in PureBasic. But i want to complete my IDE and i need some help with the PureBasic code and syntaxis because im a begginer here.Personally I find PureBasic idiosyncratic, with iratic syntax, badly documented, and generally a pain to use. A good IDE would have kept me using it.
Andrew
Per example, Paul gives me a good wishes, thats exactly what i need: concrete wishes.
Thanks
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by fred.
Hello Ricardo,
Here are my wishes:
- Better overall layout with good looking toolbar icons etc... .
- Possibility to set the Window flags (no minimize etc...)
- MultiWindow ?
- Possibility to read back a generated code
- Auto align on grid when moving/sizing a gadget
- Better generated code.
Of course I will help you, just mail me or open a new thread on this forum were we could all help you.
Fred - AlphaSND
Hello Ricardo,
Here are my wishes:
- Better overall layout with good looking toolbar icons etc... .
- Possibility to set the Window flags (no minimize etc...)
- MultiWindow ?
- Possibility to read back a generated code
- Auto align on grid when moving/sizing a gadget
- Better generated code.
Of course I will help you, just mail me or open a new thread on this forum were we could all help you.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Fangbeast.
I noticed in an earlier version of you IDE that the generated code put everything inside of procedures and that's not necessarily a good idea as there will have to be a lot of shared variables for some things and a lot of parameter passing.
It would be better, in my opinion; to write the code under the appropriate CASE statements that check for, and do, the functions of the various gadgets.
Just my 2 cents worth for now.
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Hi Ricardo, I'm a beginner with PureBasic too so haven't thought of anything till now but...I don't understand, some want me to continue the Visual IDE but nobody helps???
Give me ideas please
I noticed in an earlier version of you IDE that the generated code put everything inside of procedures and that's not necessarily a good idea as there will have to be a lot of shared variables for some things and a lot of parameter passing.
It would be better, in my opinion; to write the code under the appropriate CASE statements that check for, and do, the functions of the various gadgets.
Just my 2 cents worth for now.
Fangles
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.
forum when it's ready for release, which should be within the next few days.
Note that it's going to be a very simple beta version at first; that is, it
will only support the standard gadgets and nothing fancy like tab strips,
but the editing interface will be second-to-none and truly professional.
My own PureBasic IDE "designer" does exactly the above. I'll announce on thisIt would be way more useful to generate:
TextGadget(#TextGadget1,10,10,20,10,"Hello")
StringGadget(#StringGadget1,10,40,20,10,"")
ButtonGadget(#ButtonGadget1,10,70,20,10,"Ok")
forum when it's ready for release, which should be within the next few days.
Note that it's going to be a very simple beta version at first; that is, it
will only support the standard gadgets and nothing fancy like tab strips,
but the editing interface will be second-to-none and truly professional.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by fred.
Fred - AlphaSND
Wrote in PureBasic ? I can't wait .My own PureBasic IDE "designer" does exactly the above. I'll announce on this
forum when it's ready for release, which should be within the next few days.
Note that it's going to be a very simple beta version at first; that is, it
will only support the standard gadgets and nothing fancy like tab strips,
but the editing interface will be second-to-none and truly professional.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Fangbeast.
I don't want to install Microsoft software as well (and other support files they mention on the site that it needs) to design forms and then use (yet another) program to convert them and then have to check them for consistency, it's counter-intuitive!!. I like my hard disk space devoted to one language (grin) and less files.
Good on you for a sterling effort however
:)
Fangles
I am a purist. PB's program isn't a "designer", it's an intepreter/converter like PureBasic.My own PureBasic IDE "designer" does exactly the above. I'll announce on this
forum when it's ready for release, which should be within the next few days.
I don't want to install Microsoft software as well (and other support files they mention on the site that it needs) to design forms and then use (yet another) program to convert them and then have to check them for consistency, it's counter-intuitive!!. I like my hard disk space devoted to one language (grin) and less files.
Good on you for a sterling effort however
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by RoBasic.
Ricardo,
Please do not stop creating your IDE. It's wonderful, I am more of a creator then a programmer andI truely was amazed at the power that your IDE has. And not to mentiont eh time you must of spent creating it. Please, for all those programmers who are more creators then any thing else, don't stop.
I downloaded your IDE and used it without even looking at the help files. I see you are also apart of the Rapid-Q group. Well, if you look at RQ's IDE then you will see most of my wants there with the gadgits. I like RG very much but its future seems up in teh air and i like PureBasic as it here and stable, BUT... yes thers a but, PureBasic has no IDE to speek of, untiul you came up wiht one. So Please Ricardo, dont stop, yes there are those that want it and desire it. I for one!
Well, keep up the great work Ricardo.
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Ricardo,
Please do not stop creating your IDE. It's wonderful, I am more of a creator then a programmer andI truely was amazed at the power that your IDE has. And not to mentiont eh time you must of spent creating it. Please, for all those programmers who are more creators then any thing else, don't stop.
I downloaded your IDE and used it without even looking at the help files. I see you are also apart of the Rapid-Q group. Well, if you look at RQ's IDE then you will see most of my wants there with the gadgits. I like RG very much but its future seems up in teh air and i like PureBasic as it here and stable, BUT... yes thers a but, PureBasic has no IDE to speek of, untiul you came up wiht one. So Please Ricardo, dont stop, yes there are those that want it and desire it. I for one!
Well, keep up the great work Ricardo.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.
support files. Also, many people here do already own Visual Basic (like myself)
so these people don't need to install anything to use vis2pure anyway.
As for your point about then using a converter, well I can probably modify vis2pure
to automatically convert the designed form when Visual Basic exits, and then even
launch PureBasic with the converted form, to save you this "hassle".
Besides, the purpose of vis2pure is to design your window from scratch, so that
all gadgets are how you like them, and then convert it to PureBasic and never
need to touch the design again.
I'm not twisting anybody's arm to use it... it's just an alternative, and it's
perfect for Visual Basic users like myself to convert our existing forms into
PureBasic code.
Edited by - PB on 17 December 2001 18:45:07
True. Even its name (vis2pure) doesn't try to hide this fact.PB's program isn't a "designer", it's an intepreter/converter
You only need to install one file ('vb5ccein.exe') and not all theI don't want to install Microsoft software as well (and other support files they mention on the site that it needs)
support files. Also, many people here do already own Visual Basic (like myself)
so these people don't need to install anything to use vis2pure anyway.
Using Visual Basic is no different to using any other editor, such as Ricardo's.and then use (yet another) program to convert them and then have to check them
for consistency, it's counter-intuitive!!.
As for your point about then using a converter, well I can probably modify vis2pure
to automatically convert the designed form when Visual Basic exits, and then even
launch PureBasic with the converted form, to save you this "hassle".
Besides, the purpose of vis2pure is to design your window from scratch, so that
all gadgets are how you like them, and then convert it to PureBasic and never
need to touch the design again.
Thank you. In any event, I like what it does and I hope others do too.Good on you for a sterling effort however
I'm not twisting anybody's arm to use it... it's just an alternative, and it's
perfect for Visual Basic users like myself to convert our existing forms into
PureBasic code.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by RoBasic.
I have downloaded the vis2pure and its not what I am looking for. Ricardo's appilcation is what I need and I do hope Ricardo you are still persuing it? If not then I will continue using Rapid-Q, PureBasic is just to QuickBasic, and doing a lot of typing is not for me. Ricado's appilcation made it more usable and makes it more appealing to use as well.
Please Ricardo, let use know if you are still going to continue, if not then it's a shame.
Oh, why bother converting VisualBasic to PureBasic?.. it makes no sense at all. If you want to create an IDE then do so, stop wasting time by telling us to buy VisualBasic, then buy PureBasic, then convert the one to the other... GET REAL! Ricardo has the best answer to VisualBasic... why use VisualBasic at all! when he has created an IDE that will work with PureBasic, without having to buy VisualBasic. Well you must have some bucks to shell out for alot of software that just sets around.
Jon
I have downloaded the vis2pure and its not what I am looking for. Ricardo's appilcation is what I need and I do hope Ricardo you are still persuing it? If not then I will continue using Rapid-Q, PureBasic is just to QuickBasic, and doing a lot of typing is not for me. Ricado's appilcation made it more usable and makes it more appealing to use as well.
Please Ricardo, let use know if you are still going to continue, if not then it's a shame.
Oh, why bother converting VisualBasic to PureBasic?.. it makes no sense at all. If you want to create an IDE then do so, stop wasting time by telling us to buy VisualBasic, then buy PureBasic, then convert the one to the other... GET REAL! Ricardo has the best answer to VisualBasic... why use VisualBasic at all! when he has created an IDE that will work with PureBasic, without having to buy VisualBasic. Well you must have some bucks to shell out for alot of software that just sets around.
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Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.
I am sure Ricardo's editor is great -- I even used an early version of it.
But for me, nothing matches Visual Basic's editor and I'd prefer to use
that to design my forms. Thus, vis2pure was born, and I mentioned it here
for the benefit of others. That's why it makes sense.
I get the distinct impression that some of you think I am trying to rubbish
Ricardo's editor and/or influence people not to use it. THIS IS NOT TRUE.
That's not what I am doing -- I provided a Visual Basic to PureBasic converter,
that's all. I don't know why I'm being attacked so viciously over it...
You said you downloaded vis2pure, well surely you would have read its docs
where it tells you to download Visual Basic for FREE -- the FREE legal
version. You don't have to spend any money to do your editing with Visual
Basic's professional interface and then convert it to PureBasic.
And like I said: vis2pure is a handy tool for those of us who want to
convert our existing Visual Basic forms to PureBasic without doing them
all over again by hand, or with another editor. So that is a great feature
of vis2pure in itself...
Not long ago people were whinging about the lack of IDE editors for PureBasic,
and now there's two for people to choose from, so if you don't like mine then
don't use it; simple. No need to hit me over the head if you don't like it.
Edited by - PB on 19 December 2001 06:58:17
That's fine.I have downloaded the vis2pure and its not what I am looking for.
It makes sense in that the IDE editor that it uses is second-to-none.why bother converting VisualBasic to PureBasic?.. it makes no sense at all.
I am sure Ricardo's editor is great -- I even used an early version of it.
But for me, nothing matches Visual Basic's editor and I'd prefer to use
that to design my forms. Thus, vis2pure was born, and I mentioned it here
for the benefit of others. That's why it makes sense.
I get the distinct impression that some of you think I am trying to rubbish
Ricardo's editor and/or influence people not to use it. THIS IS NOT TRUE.
That's not what I am doing -- I provided a Visual Basic to PureBasic converter,
that's all. I don't know why I'm being attacked so viciously over it...
You do not need to buy Visual Basic, and I have NEVER said you need too.stop wasting time by telling us to buy VisualBasic
You said you downloaded vis2pure, well surely you would have read its docs
where it tells you to download Visual Basic for FREE -- the FREE legal
version. You don't have to spend any money to do your editing with Visual
Basic's professional interface and then convert it to PureBasic.
And like I said: vis2pure is a handy tool for those of us who want to
convert our existing Visual Basic forms to PureBasic without doing them
all over again by hand, or with another editor. So that is a great feature
of vis2pure in itself...
Not long ago people were whinging about the lack of IDE editors for PureBasic,
and now there's two for people to choose from, so if you don't like mine then
don't use it; simple. No need to hit me over the head if you don't like it.
Edited by - PB on 19 December 2001 06:58:17