Spanish and Italian translator needed

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by fred.


I'm looking for 2 translators to update the Italian and Spanish editor catalog file (almost 100 words to translate). If you can help, just mail me at [url]mailto:fred@purebasic.com[/url]

(and reply to the forum to tell the translation is ok)

Thanks in advance !

Fred - AlphaSND

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.

> I'm looking for 2 translators to update the Italian and Spanish
> editor catalog file (almost 100 words to translate).

If it's just words you want translated, rather than phrases, then
Google's tranlator should be good enough if nobody can help:

http://www.google.com/language_tools


PB - Registered PureBasic Coder

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by fred.

Thanks but I prefer 'real' translating, especially with computer words .
Spanish is ok. Only Italian left. BTW, the editor currently has the following langage support:

- English
- French
- German
- Dutch
- Spanish
- Italian.

If someone want to add its own langage file, just contact me.

Fred - AlphaSND

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Franco.

Fred, you can send me your english language file and I try to translate it properly into italian. (you have my e-mail address)

Have a nice day...
Franco

Sometimes you have to go a lonely way to accomplish genius things.

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by merendo.

@Franco: How many languages do you speak? You speak german, italian... whats next ?

@Fred: Why not ask an italian user personally? Joseph...

Cu @ll, merendo
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I've been hiding - What am I hiding from???

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Franco.

english

I lived some years in Italy and Germany, that's why.

Sometimes I speak stupid, well this is what my wife says.
Hmm, but I never lived in Stupidity...

Have a nice day...
Franco

Sometimes you have to go a lonely way to accomplish genius things.

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Joseph.

Hello
sorry i read this topic only right now
i'll be glad to contribute with the translation
i'll contact Fred at the email he posted

hope this helps


best regards
Joseph

(PureBasic Registered User)

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by fred.

Thanks

Fred - AlphaSND

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Seldon.

I'm available for the Italian translation. Or I can help Franco with
it. I'm from Italy.

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Joseph.

Fred
as i will not have much time next days i have soon translated the Italian editor catalog file, here it is (see below). For a more confortable usage, i'll send to you by email attachment also the .catalog file.
Just a few general 'translation' notes, to explain some 'guidelines' I have tried to follow:

- i have used the base english catalog as a reference, when i had any doubts i have checked out the French one (don't know French but am able to read it in general); for example I have translated 'Match case' with 'Maiuscole Minuscole' according to the French file.

- 'Stay on Top': i have translated it with 'Sempre visibile' but in the case related to the Color picker I had to shorten it with 'Sempre Visib.' as the complete string doens't fit in the dialog.

- While I have translated 'Procedure Browser' with 'Browser delle Procedure' as in a technical context it sounds a little better than the literal translation ('Navigatore delle Procedure'), I have translated 'Structure viewer' with 'Ispettore delle Strutture', something like 'Structure Inspector box', as otherwise, leaving the (indeed better) original english word, the 'tools menu' would have all Italian words except of that.

- the 'Menu Item Name:' under 'add tools' dialog box: i had to shorten it as 'Nome Elem. Menu:' as the complete string 'Nome Elemento di Menu:' doesnt' fit

Finally I can add that I have installed it inside PB 3.40 catalogs folder (Italian subfolder) and played with the translated catalog file selecting almost all the IDE commands: it seems to me everything is OK.

Hope this helps

Giuseppe (Joseph)

--- file Catalogs\Italian\Editor.catalog ---

PBCAT3.40
File
Nuovo Ctrl+N
Apri... Ctrl+O
Salva Ctrl+S
Salva con Nome...
Stampa... Ctrl+P
Esci
Modifica
Taglia Ctrl+X
Copia Ctrl+C
Incolla Ctrl+V
Trova/sostituisci... Ctrl+F
Trova Successivo F3
Compilatore
Compila/Esegui F5
Esegui
Debugger
Opzioni Compilatore...
Crea Eseguibile...
Aiuto
Aiuto... F1
Informazioni...
Linea:
Colonna:
Compilazione in corso...
Linea
Caricamento del programma...
Programma caricato.
Impossibile leggere il file !
Salvataggio del programma...
Programma salvato.
Impossibile salvare il file...
Errore
Stato:
Il programma è stato modificato.
Salvare prima di continuare ?
Vai a... Ctrl+G
Preferenze...
Vai a...
Annulla
Ok
Opzioni Compilatore
Usa Icona:
Abilita il supporto ASM in linea
Crea l'eseguibile per NT 4.0
Annulla
Ok
Preferenze Editor
Cartella iniziale :
Linguaggio :
Colora Sintassi:
Apertura automatica dell'ultimo progetto all'avvio
Memorizza la posizione della finestra all'uscita
Annulla
Usa
Salva
Sfondo
Comando Basic
Commento
Costante
Stringa
Salva il programma prima di 'compila/esegui'
Caratteri dell'Editor :
Comando/Procedura
Seleziona un nuovo Carattere
Testo Normale
Informazioni...
Annulla Ctrl+Z
Ripeti Ctrl+Y
Carattere non consentito !
Formato Eseguibile :
Abilita il supporto dei temi XP
Trova/Sostituisci
Trova :
Sostituisci con :
Solo parole intere
Maiuscole Minuscole
Annulla
Sostituisci Tutto
Sostituisci
Successivo
Linea di comando :
Mostra valori in Esadecimale
Lancia una sola istanza
Lunghezza TAB :
Generale
Browser delle Procedure
ComboBox nella toolbar
ListView sul lato :
Destro
Sinistro
Seleziona un Carattere
Ordina Procedure/Commenti in ordine alfabetico
Raggruppa i marcatori
Sempre Visib.
Chiudi al termine
Valori Decimali
R:
G:
B:
Inserisci RGB
Inserisci Colore
Chiudi
Tavolozza Colori
Chiudi Ctrl+W
Seleziona Tutto Ctrl+A
Tabella ASCII Alt+A
Ispettore Strutture Alt+S
Tavolozza Colori Alt+P
Configura Strumenti...
Help Esterno
Files Recenti
Ispettore Strutture
Parent
Sempre Visibile
Colori del Browser :
Caratteri del Browser :
Aggiungi Strumenti
Linea di Comando:
Sfoglia
Argomenti: ( %PATH , %FILE , %TEMPFILE )
Cartella di lavoro:
Nome Elem. Menu:
Scorciatoia:
Esecuzione Invisibile
Attendi la fine dell'esecuzione
Ricarica Sorgente dopo la conclusione del programma
In un nuovo sorgente
Nel sorgente corrente
Nascondi Editor
Opzioni
Aggiungi
Inserisci
Rimpiazza
Elementi del Menu:
Cancella
Su
Giù
Annulla
Ok
Nessuno

--- end include ---


best regards
Joseph

(PureBasic Registered User)

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by fred.

Thanks a lot for helping, it will be included in the next release !

Fred - AlphaSND

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Franco.

> Giuseppe (Joseph)

I knew it, I knew it!

Bel lavoro Giuseppe.

BTW:

> Parent

Penso che 'Parent' non e un nome italiano...

Dovrebbe essere 'Parente'. No

Have a nice day...
Franco

Sometimes you have to go a lonely way to accomplish genius things.

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Joseph.

thank you Fred and Franco
I am very glad to contribute a little little bit to this excellent project, named PureBasic!

Yes, I didn't translate 'parent' but it actually wasn't an oversight
Sounding a little 'ugly' to me puttin there the Italian word 'Genitore', I checked out the French catalog file and found Fred left it so, so it seemed to me better using that way also in the ITalian file.

Infact, the word 'parent' would be literally translated into the Italian word 'Genitore', consider that is one of the so called 'false friends': in Italian we say 'parente' (singular) ('parenti', plural) for, say, your english word 'relative' meaning people belonging to the same familiy (i.e: uncles, aunts etc.) Of course 'genitori' are also 'parenti' in general but it's a slight difference

Anyway I think that's one of the typical cases in which it's actually hard to decide if leaving the original word or going on using the original english one (almost always better as more concise and 'evocative'). In general i can add that nowadays people in a technical context directly use many english original words, as the Italian 'equivalents' sound sometimes not so fine (ie, personally dont' like 'archivi' for 'files').

Just my 2 euro cent opinion

ciao da Giuseppe




best regards
Joseph

(PureBasic Registered User)

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Berikco.

Originally posted by Joseph
Yes, I didn't translate 'parent' but it actually wasn't an oversight
Sounding a little 'ugly' to me puttin there the Italian word 'Genitore', I checked out the French catalog file and found Fred left it so, so it seemed to me better using that way also in the ITalian file.

Sometimes beter to leave in english.
Here in Dutch, 'icon' was translated in first w95 to 'pictogram' bwaak.
And 'Eject' to 'Verbreken' wich actualy means 'Break apart' or 'Disconnect' if you translate to english

But now many words just stay English, and are oficialy recocnized as dutch also.

Computer
Compiler
Delete
Surf
etc... all dutch now


Regards,

Berikco

http://www.benny.zeb.be

[BackupUser]

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Berikco.

And now we need Translators to Spanish and Italian for the Purebasic Visual Designer.
106 lines/ words
Just send a mail to [url]mailto:benny@zeb.be">benny@zeb.be



Regards,

Berikco

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