PureLinux?

Killswitch · Post by **Killswitch** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:18 pm

Hey,

I'm not a big linux fan, well basically I don't like it enough to use as my everyday OS. However sometimes I'd like to develop for linux to make my projects more interopenable. So, I had an idea. Would it be so hard for someone to make a cut down Live CD distro, essentially just the Kernal with KDE or Gnome with PB preinstalled on it? That way I could develop for Linux without actually having to insall linux. Ok it'd have to be limited to people with full licenses, but I can't really see any other problems with the idea.

What do you think?

Beach · Post by **Beach** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:47 pm

I used the embedded version with QEMU, that way the user would not need to boot outside of Windows and updates are simple.

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dracflamloc · Post by **dracflamloc** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:10 am

The problem is you would only get the demo version on a livecd

Killswitch · Post by **Killswitch** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:01 am

I thought about that. Couldn't the live cd iso be on our private user areas? I mean downloading that is no different to downloading a PB install package (well, except it'd eat up more bandwidth).

Trond · Post by **Trond** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:04 pm

If you're using FAT you should be able to mount the hard disk from the LiveCD and run PureBasic from it (the linux version on the windows partition). I don't know if you can run it from an NTFS file system.

Beach · Post by **Beach** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:25 pm

Trond wrote:If you're using FAT you should be able to mount the hard disk from the LiveCD and run PureBasic from it (the linux version on the windows partition). I don't know if you can run it from an NTFS file system.

You are not going to be able to mount a Linux drive on windows and then expect to launch GTK based apps. The closest thing to that would be Cygwin. It seems to me that the project I put together is almost exactly what you speak of - minus the LiveCD piece. I also include an app to upgrade the demo version to full. Would you be more apt to use it if it was VMWare based? I've thought about converting it since the VMware player is now free and I have a copy of Workstation 4 to build an image.

Brice Manuel · Post by **Brice Manuel** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:15 pm

I am not a Linux user, but shouldn't you be able to install PB on a USB flash drive and then use your favorite "live CD" and use PB from the flash drive?

DarkDragon · Post by **DarkDragon** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:19 pm

Brice Manuel wrote:I am not a Linux user, but shouldn't you be able to install PB on a USB flash drive and then use your favorite "live CD" and use PB from the flash drive?

No because you have to install those devel libraries into the system default folders, and on CD you have no write-access to them.

Brice Manuel · Post by **Brice Manuel** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:36 pm

No because you have to install those devel libraries into the system default folders, and on CD you have no write-access to them.

Could you put the "live CD" on a USB flash drive and just boot from that?

DarkDragon · Post by **DarkDragon** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:28 pm

Brice Manuel wrote:
No because you have to install those devel libraries into the system default folders, and on CD you have no write-access to them.
Could you put the "live CD" on a USB flash drive and just boot from that?

I don't know how to do it, but it's possible as I think.

Joakim Christiansen · Post by **Joakim Christiansen** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:56 pm

Slax Linux is a 177 MB live linux cd.
It supports modules which can be put on the cd and runned like installed programs.
Maybe Fred could make a PureBasic module for it which registered users could download.

Trond · Post by **Trond** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:08 pm

Beach wrote:
Trond wrote:If you're using FAT you should be able to mount the hard disk from the LiveCD and run PureBasic from it (the linux version on the windows partition). I don't know if you can run it from an NTFS file system.
You are not going to be able to mount a Linux drive on windows and then expect to launch GTK based apps. The closest thing to that would be Cygwin. It seems to me that the project I put together is almost exactly what you speak of - minus the LiveCD piece. I also include an app to upgrade the demo version to full. Would you be more apt to use it if it was VMWare based? I've thought about converting it since the VMware player is now free and I have a copy of Workstation 4 to build an image.

No no, I'll explain again! I don't suggest to mount a linux drive on windows and then expect it to launch linux apps.

I suggest to extract PureBasic for Linux onto a Windows drive. Of course you can't run it from Windows. But, when you start Linux, you can mount the Windows drive and run the Linux version of PureBasic from it!

DarkDragon wrote:
Brice Manuel wrote:I am not a Linux user, but shouldn't you be able to install PB on a USB flash drive and then use your favorite "live CD" and use PB from the flash drive?
No because you have to install those devel libraries into the system default folders, and on CD you have no write-access to them.

And things like Knoppix doesn't come with GTk-devel installed??? That's insane but I don't doubt you.

Straker · Post by **Straker** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:36 pm

From Linux, you can mount Windows Drives but NTFS is read-only. FAT and FAT32 are Read-Write from Linux. I backup my wife's Linux system to a FAT32 drive with no problem.

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:41 pm

Straker wrote:NTFS is read-only

Afaik that is not true. Its just the default ntfs "drivers" that doesnt allow writing.

Beach · Post by **Beach** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:46 pm

Trond wrote:No no, I'll explain again! I don't suggest to mount a linux drive on windows and then expect it to launch linux apps.

I suggest to extract PureBasic for Linux onto a Windows drive. Of course you can't run it from Windows. But, when you start Linux, you can mount the Windows drive and run the Linux version of PureBasic from it!

Much clearer now.