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Hello ... i own a XBOX ... and i will buy the new XBOX (XBOX 360) ... i want to show you the "little" machine that the XBOX 360 is ... just look at this site
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/factsheet.htm and tell me what you think

The hardware don't make good games, only the talent does it.
I m enough of the marketing done by sony and m$ about their spec, they all forgot to talk about the essential : games.
I ll by the console wich will do the best games, that's it.

I have had the Xbox 1 for a few years now and it's great. I have installed a modchip in it and I'm now just using it as a media station, which is perfect for the Xbox. I was going to buy the 360, but after alot of research, not only on hardware, but also on games and on mods under development, I have decided to buy the PS3 when it comes out

I have mi xbox without modchip 100% original ... and i have xbox live it is simply great ... i will buy the xbox 360 ... and may be if the ps3 is good ... then i i would buy it

Great engineering is showing when you can buy the same games for PS2 (which is, what, 7 years old now?) as you can for the XBox

Well ... a thing is confirmed ... xbox 360 will be compatible with xbox games ... i have 12 games for xbox ... i will sell my xbox to buy the xbox 360 ... and play Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3 .... and Final Fantasy ... and others ... in my xbox 360

Dudes i've just seen traillers from Grand Turism, Tekken 6 and Final Fantasy for playstation 3, and both my balls dropped and rolled on the floor!

Man forget about Xbox 360, games for it just look like games on a high end PC...

Eheheh Lucas Arts & Pixar could use Ps3 for their movies in REAL time ...

Num3 wrote:Dudes i've just seen traillers from Grand Turism, Tekken 6 and Final Fantasy for playstation 3, and both my balls dropped and rolled on the floor!

Man forget about Xbox 360, games for it just look like games on a high end PC...

Eheheh Lucas Arts & Pixar could use Ps3 for their movies in REAL time ...

Yeah! Agree.
Moreover, PS3 means a very new concept of computing and processing tech and XBOX 360 is more of the same.

How do people write games for these things? (a Duh? question, I know).

But on a PC you sit down at your keyboard and cut code.

On a games box (any gaming box) you do what? Old style (code, burn roms, test?). Buy a special box?

afaik they use a pc for it. i guess you dont have to burn roms everytime to test it. they probably have some direct connection to it so they can run it and debug eg.

Afaik, there were rumours about an SDK+Emulator distribuited for Ps2 to use in PC, the idea was to make home/independent programmers develop titles for PS2 and thus an even bigger market.

Don't know if that really happened, cause that SDK is worth a lot of $$$, and i think sony ended up selling it to companies that could afford it.

Never the less titles are now programmed in dedicated DEV Boxes, using PS own programming language...

--EDIT---

Found this at a Forum:

I know that it is possible to get Playstation 2 SDK, but it costs $20,000 or something, and frankly out of my range --- by several digits.

Here's a PS dev-box:




-- Edit 2 --

For playstation 1... An unoficial SDK

http://www.buginthemachine.com/ePSXTut08.php

looks like a pc.
however his question was also for xbox.

and back at ps2: you can use your pc. here: http://ps2dev.org/
seems like they can run elf like programs.
so as i said: you can use pc.

thefool wrote:looks like a pc.
however his question was also for xbox.

Same thing for Xbox, you buy the SDK and you'll get Mac!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia ... 70718.html

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14407

there is defiently something weird going on with the big companies.. apple goes to intel, microsoft buy macs, sony decides to dump intel like cpu's and goes to ppc as apple used before