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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:23 pm
by gnozal
Update

- added gadget deletion shortcut : DEL key (delete selected gadget if his parent window has focus)
- added undo feature ('Undo' menu item or CTRL+Z) ; has to be activated in preferences (not much tested).

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:33 pm
by mskuma
Thanks. I tried the undo feature. At the very beginning, I had turned on the 'show grid' function. If I add a button, then delete it (using the new Del key - thanks!) and press ctrl-z, the button reappears but the grid disappears. This is a bug I think.

Also a suggestion - about the delete gadget function in conjunction with Del key, please consider adding a function that supresses the confirmation dialog, e.g. pressing Ctrl-Del will delete the gadget directly (with no confirmation). Sometimes you know what you are doing, and don't want the confirmation.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:21 pm
by gnozal
mskuma wrote:Thanks. I tried the undo feature. At the very beginning, I had turned on the 'show grid' function. If I add a button, then delete it (using the new Del key - thanks!) and press ctrl-z, the button reappears but the grid disappears. This is a bug I think.
Should be fixed.
mskuma wrote:Also a suggestion - about the delete gadget function in conjunction with Del key, please consider adding a function that supresses the confirmation dialog, e.g. pressing Ctrl-Del will delete the gadget directly (with no confirmation). Sometimes you know what you are doing, and don't want the confirmation.
I have added an option in preferences to turn off confirmation.

Please download again

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:31 pm
by mskuma
Thanks for your quick updates gnozal.
gnozal wrote:
mskuma wrote:the button reappears but the grid disappears. This is a bug I think.
Should be fixed.
I still see the problem. I also tried deleting the pref file & had it recreated by the software (not sure if it makes a difference). I also noticed the same thing happens if I select New Project from the menu, i.e. I see a form with no grid, but if I close & re-open the app, I see a blank form with a grid on it.
mskuma wrote:Sometimes you know what you are doing, and don't want the confirmation.
I have added an option in preferences to turn off confirmation.
Thanks - it works well.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:38 pm
by gnozal
mskuma wrote:I still see the problem. I also tried deleting the pref file & had it recreated by the software (not sure if it makes a difference). I also noticed the same thing happens if I select New Project from the menu, i.e. I see a form with no grid, but if I close & re-open the app, I see a blank form with a grid on it.
Download updated. Please try again.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:03 pm
by mskuma
Thanks - the undo problem is fixed, but I still see the other problem I mentioned, i.e.
mskuma wrote:the same thing happens if I select New Project from the menu, i.e. I see a form with no grid, but if I close & re-open the app, I see a blank form with a grid on it.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:24 am
by gnozal
mskuma wrote:Thanks - the undo problem is fixed, but I still see the other problem I mentioned, i.e.
mskuma wrote:the same thing happens if I select New Project from the menu, i.e. I see a form with no grid, but if I close & re-open the app, I see a blank form with a grid on it.
And I don't even use this feature myself ...
Ok, download updated. Can't reproduce the problem with this last release.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:29 am
by mskuma
Thanks - it is fixed now.
gnozal wrote:
mskuma wrote:Thanks - the undo problem is fixed, but I still see the other problem I mentioned, i.e.
mskuma wrote:the same thing happens if I select New Project from the menu, i.e. I see a form with no grid, but if I close & re-open the app, I see a blank form with a grid on it.
And I don't even use this feature myself ...
Ok, download updated. Can't reproduce the problem with this last release.

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:38 pm
by AL90
A small suggestion:

When I choose Exit from Menu, PF will not save the latest Project and ConfigFile.
Sometimes I use the Menu. I think it is better add support for the Exit-Menu Entry. :wink:

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:47 am
by mskuma
In using this, I've seen 2 features that are really needed:

- constrain gadget movement to horizontal or vertical only with mouse movement (e.g. by holding shift key while moving gadget with mouse)

- ability to select & move multiple gadgets at once

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:01 am
by gnozal
AL90 wrote:A small suggestion:
When I choose Exit from Menu, PF will not save the latest Project and ConfigFile.
Sometimes I use the Menu. I think it is better add support for the Exit-Menu Entry. :wink:
You are right :wink:
Should be fixed.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:02 am
by gnozal
mskuma wrote:- constrain gadget movement to horizontal or vertical only with mouse movement (e.g. by holding shift key while moving gadget with mouse)
I am not sure I understand what you mean ?
mskuma wrote:- ability to select & move multiple gadgets at once
That's big one ; hum... on the todo list.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:05 am
by mskuma
gnozal wrote:
mskuma wrote:- constrain gadget movement to horizontal or vertical only with mouse movement (e.g. by holding shift key while moving gadget with mouse)
I am not sure I understand what you mean ?
Sometimes you want to move the gadget only horizontally (or only vertically). In the current situation, moving a gadget left or right is possible by using the mouse or keyboard (but is tedious with keyboard). Using a mouse to move perfectly horizontally over a long distance (i.e. moving it just left or right without the gadget's position creeping up or down during movement) is difficult. Some other programs like Adobe Photoshop, let you force an item's movement to horizontal only by pressing a key, then as you drag the item with the mouse - the item will only move to the left or right without the possibility to move up or down. That is, any vertical movement is ignored (in the case of moving horizontally, and vice-versa when moving the gadget vertically).

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:14 pm
by jbernard13
GNOZAL THE BEST

PureForm is is better than VisualDesign

sorry pour Betiko ......

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:07 am
by mskuma
jbernard13 wrote:PureForm is is better than VisualDesign
I'm not sure if that's a fair comment.. I've not used VD much before (due to not doing alot of GUI coding), and seeing PureForm, it's made me revisit VD, and I'm pleasantly surprised at how polished it is. PureForm has just started, so in some ways I think it has a long way to go to catch up to VD's level of polish (e.g. VD has the snap to grid feature and nice resize handles on the gadget, and I also like the way you can customise the constant names). However one thing I really like in PureForm over VD is you can get all the code in one lot, whereas I think VD wants to split it across 2 files. Maybe that's a good thing (and it's personal pref), but at the moment I prefer it in one file. I also like the ease of access to essential elements via the 'View' toolbar (i.e. Gadget list, Code view etc). Whichever, I've come to appreciate VD & PF more & more these days, so many thanks to Beriko & gnozal!!