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White Eagle wrote:People on this forum will argue about anything

Nice "myths" link, only has two parts I am not too sure of - need to check further.

It led to this: http://www.avantbrowser.com/ (Which seems pretty nifty if the claims are true).


All browsers suck when you deliver web pages. It gets hellish finding tricks that mean pages render in a decent manner on any reasonably modern browser. And IE does suck a little more than the others in this respect. Nice clean stylesheets suddenly get * tricks all over the blooming place and html If IE gt/lt etc tests suddenly clutter up the page. But it was nice of IE to give a tag especially to overcome it's idiosyncracies .. Others should follow suit: If FF, if Moz, If Opera would make a nice change from using JS and server-side browser identification, especially as that can be spoofed.

> Nice "myths" link

Not. Some of the myths are false, such as "unpatched vulnerabilities" for
example. Clicking the "sources" for this particular myth show that the two
vulnerabilities listed apply only to very old versions of Firefox, and not the
latest version (v1.5.0.6). Thus, the whole site's integrity is compromised.

Checking further, the myth site claims that even the Greasemonkey extension
for Firefox is unsafe! Yet when viewing the source of this claim, it's referring
to an old Greasemonkey version (v0.3.5) from 2005, and not the very latest
version (v0.6.5) from 2006.

Also, the myth site claims that 'Internet Explorer has supported Extensions
since 1999 in Internet Explorer 5 known as Add-Ons' - but if you click the
Add-Ons link that they provide, it takes you to Internet Explorer 7, which
is not even out of beta stage yet! :roll:

Conclusion? Some of that myth site is severely outdated and blatant lies,
and I would bet lots of it could be removed if we checked even further.
But hey, I'd rather be coding.

Mythical myths.


Fortunately for me I am not married to any particular browser or vendor - and can't be because I have to check my own sites work with as many as possible.

BTW, each has something I like and something I am not that fond of when used to browse. Latest IE generally gives a good browsing experience, as does Opera.

Mostly I surf with Mozilla 1.7.3 (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910) as this is the browser I use for initial testing when developing/authoring and I happen to have it loaded most of the time. It is prone to crashes, though.

> Fortunately for me I am not married to any particular browser

I'm not "married" to Firefox... it just does all I want with ease.

I use Opera. It does what I need out of the box, I don't have to hunt down "extensions" to provide features that should be in the browser. For me, its faster, and more stable than the competition and less resource hogging. In the past, I happily paid for it.

I have tried Firefox several times, but have never been happy with it for a variety of reasons. However, too its credit, it is more standards compliant than what IE is, but thats not saying much. Heck, even Microsoft sites will not always display properly in IE.

I do chuckle though when people knock IE for security issues, but then praise Firefox. With Firefox being open source, it really cuts down on the work that the "bad guys" have to do to compromise the browser. I know it is narrowminded, but I don't see much difference between an open source browser and a trojan.

People should use what they like best and what works best for them and their specific needs. Arguing about which is best like in this thread, is silly and just as futile as arguing about programming languages. People have different needs, what is best for one person may not be best for another.

I'm testing AVANT browser.
It's just a front end for Internet Explorer API, and far better than IE

Now for 1.5Mb it's a worthy replacement for IE, lot's of neat stuff to play with..

-- EDIT --

Hum some nice features...

Search engines and site sortcuts...
For a google search i type = g purebasic

And startup multiple webpages!

Num3 wrote:Hum some nice features...

Search engines and site sortcuts...
For a google search i type = g purebasic

And startup multiple webpages!

Just as Opera.

ok ok... gonna test opera now

Avant claims to sit on IE but also provide the same features as Opera FF et al. So if you like FF, Opera etc you should like Avant and also get the benefit of having it deal with quirkish IE stuff.

Note, based on what it says, not on what I know it does. Will try it (have to now, if it is going to take off) in a few days.

At least Avant is honest. In their FAQ, they clearly state that Avant is only as secure as IE :roll:

White Eagle wrote:At least Avant is honest. In their FAQ, they clearly state that Avant is only as secure as IE :roll:

Honest and honest, they say their browser is the fastest browser on earth and that's a lie and they know it.

Back on topic:

Might want to toss the user comprar-viagra-espana.


OT again:

IMO all browsers are fast enough for most users, and the vast majority of users probably never go into any detail at all, they just use the browser that came packaged with their off-the-shelf PC (so, IE).

Those who bother to look around will probably be more taken by the user interface - does it look "nice", is it comfortable to use - than by anything else. Which is personal preference and taste.

Maybe if PC vendors bundled in browser choices there would be a bigger slice of market going to non-IE browsers?

Ehhhhh! another user fake is now new:
he want to sell viagra: the name is
comprar-viagra-espana

I vote for the crucifixion for him/her.
(In fact i'd perform a helpful crucifixion for him/herserf)

What happens with te moderators????????

> What happens with te moderators????????

Mods can't delete members -- only the admins can.

That's Right. so, What happens with the admins?