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Luke-Jr wrote:

JCV wrote:IMHO. Linux are mainly used for webservers or simple task like browsing, checking mails etc.

Or any serious computer use

:roll:
Could you qualify that?

Or is it just one of those "I'll say whatever I need to to alleviate my insecurity issues" kind of remarks

- I attach myself to concept x (in this case Linux)
- I push concept x as being superior
- Result is that I appear superior and feel better about myself
- Failback plan, if attacked I can make it look like a joke

Remember that Linux was originally developed to be a desktop OS. It's just that the server side of things has got some love over the years.

Luke-Jr wrote: Except you should focus on learning useful tools, like Python or Perl for example.

You know, it all depends on what you are doing. Surely Python is PERFECT for some jobs, where .net and C# might fit for another thing. And purebasic, too.

So how can you say whats usefull for him? (besides, C# can be used under linux and nearly every other operating system)

The good games work just fine in *nix.

Again its a personal taste. but surely, many good games are moving over to supporting linux

Or any serious computer use

Actually there is none really usable DAW for linux at the moment. HOWEVER linux would be PERFECT for such use, if a good linux DAW supported linux. The reason it would be perfect is, that you would have much more control over the system, and you would be able to lay so high a percent of the power to the DAW, so you would get a much higher effiency rate. But while there are some DAW's, none are really usable for proffesional use. But i hope it will come! If so, i would purchase a machine only for that with linux on (and that would give me more power from the same equipment, plus several hundred dollars for the hardware so it would be a complete win-win situation!).

Same goes for other uses. Linux needs the high quality tools from the big companies, but yes, they are slowly getting their eyes up.

Luke-Jr wrote:http://wiki.winehq.org/AutodeskAutocad
Not that I endorse using proprietary Win32 trash anyway...

Wine is known to run older versions of Autocad (R14, 2000, 2002) but versions 2004 and later are not known to work.
as stated, I can't run my AutoCAD 2007. And there are so many bugs in there list.

Luke-Jr wrote:Except you should focus on learning useful tools, like Python or Perl for example.

I also code in perl. I have a program in perl 30k+ lines and its very slow in starting. Size when compiled (3~10mb). Memory usage (30~40mb) using Tk or wxGadgets as interface. Last year I translate my code to PB and ever since Im contented with the speed, size of my program.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/art ... ws_ts_head

Good news

Back on topic.

I have .NET 2 and 3 installed only because I have a couple of programs that need them, otherwise they would not be on my system.

thefool wrote:

Luke-Jr wrote: Except you should focus on learning useful tools, like Python or Perl for example.

You know, it all depends on what you are doing. Surely Python is PERFECT for some jobs, where .net and C# might fit for another thing. And purebasic, too.

Generally, this is the case. But it does not apply to .NET because it is platform dependant. Unless the job deals specifically with the platform (in the case of .NET, bindings), there is never a good excuse to be platform dependent.

thefool wrote:So how can you say whats usefull for him? (besides, C# can be used under linux and nearly every other operating system)

Not really.

Luke-Jr wrote:

thefool wrote:

Luke-Jr wrote: Except you should focus on learning useful tools, like Python or Perl for example.

You know, it all depends on what you are doing. Surely Python is PERFECT for some jobs, where .net and C# might fit for another thing. And purebasic, too.

Generally, this is the case. But it does not apply to .NET because it is platform dependant. Unless the job deals specifically with the platform (in the case of .NET, bindings), there is never a good excuse to be platform dependent.

thefool wrote:So how can you say whats usefull for him? (besides, C# can be used under linux and nearly every other operating system)

Not really.

Good thing you agree in you can say whats usefull for him. Now let me tell you something, most companies don't care a damn if its platform dependant or not. They just want something that works! And .net works (most of the time). Besides the times i tried "MONO" I found it working well with the basic .net things, so it is platform independant to a degree.

however C# is truly platform independant.

I don't know the install rate but I have it installed.

I found some stats for 2005:

http://blogs.msdn.com/scottwil/archive/ ... 91199.aspx

theres probably more installed now.

The problem is, Linux sucks.

I don't know why, but I just deep down don't like using linux, but I do like using Vista. I also wish the Amiga would make a comeback!

I personally think that in the long term Miscrosoft have a goal of getting into processor IP and making a .net processor (rather than an emulated system as it is now).

Just a matter of time, so wait...

Anyone read "In the the beginning... was the command line" by Neal Stephenson?

Little dated now but an excellent rant about OS's

...Time to go download "windows services for Unix 3.5" (posix)

.NET is like DirectX... you need it to run something eventually.

Been using MinGW within past months, I like the slim design but there's a few glitches in the develpoer environments, even 3rd party ones like Code::Blocks still has something to fix.

yoxola wrote:.NET is like DirectX... you need it to run something eventually.

Very true, I did not nave any of the .NET frameworks installed until I got Streets & Trips 2007 which needed 2.0, now I have 2.0 and 3.0 installed.