Just wondering...

[RichAlgeni]

Here's hoping Fred & Freak are on a well deserved, long vacation (holiday), and will come back ready to go!

[c4s]

I just felt like having to post this for the PureBasic team:
Heads up and keep going, PureBasic is great!

[utopiomania]

@RichAlgeni, The development of PureBasic has stopped.

[MachineCode]

Its less than a month since beta 3 was released. I think its a bit early to be doomsaying...

Beta 3 was released on 8th May. In 4 days time, it'll be 8th Aug, making it exactly 3 months, or a quarter of a year, since the last beta. This is unprecedented in PureBasic's history; as is the silence and non-comment from the team.

However, it DOESN'T mean the product is abandoned. It just means a new situation has occurred in BOTH their personal lives that has affected this particular release schedule. I doubt it'll be a common occurrence in future. History has proven PureBasic to be stable, as evidenced in my "Doomsday Quotes" thread: http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtop ... 3&p=350416

(BTW, some of the quotes in THIS thread will be added to the "Doomsday Quotes" thread in a year).

[MachineCode]

@RichAlgeni, The development of PureBasic has stopped.

Stop the bullshit trolling. I hope the team bans you from here for this crap.

[moogle]

I'd just be happy if version 5.00 came out in time for Christmas

[Polo]

Here's hoping Fred & Freak are on a well deserved, long vacation (holiday), and will come back ready to go!

3 month holidays is what you can call long holidays indeed - haven't heard of anybody being able to take as much time off
I'm a bit worried as what I'm expecting most is the switch from Carbon to Cocoa on PB OSX, which won't be included in 4.60 - which is still not released.

[Seymour Clufley]

Perhaps Freak and Fred have fallen out. This happens in software development.

Perhaps one or both of them is depressed by working on PureBasic for years on end. This happens in software development.

From our point of view, it is worrying. No news makes one fear the worst. But I think if we keep open minds and assume things will be okay, Fred/Freak will work out whatever the problem is and things will get back on track.

A few donations to PB would probably help.

Everyone needs a break, sometimes an extended break, to come to grips with the value of a long-term project like PureBasic. We should let them have it.

[USCode]

Perhaps Freak and Fred have fallen out. This happens in software development.

Perhaps one or both of them is depressed by working on PureBasic for years on end. This happens in software development.

From our point of view, it is worrying. No news makes one fear the worst. But I think if we keep open minds and assume things will be okay, Fred/Freak will work out whatever the problem is and things will get back on track.

A few donations to PB would probably help.

Everyone needs a break, sometimes an extended break, to come to grips with the value of a long-term project like PureBasic. We should let them have it.

Good points and I'd be happy to make a donation if that would help ... but I need to know what the situation is first.

[RichAlgeni]

I will also make a supplemental donation, as I have before. I only mention that because of how much faith I have in Purebasic and the team.

[Didelphodon]

I totally respect your opinions, especially when it comes to personal perspectives and foci regarding private problems. But on the other side we the customers do have the right to ask for a statement what the hack is going on regarding Purebasic itself or what influences the actual situation might (already) have for the future of this programming language.

All the time there was this energetic motivation of the dev-team to lift Purebasic up to be a respected programming language furthermore being used in a professional way, too. And it really took off and there are plenty of people now who have some job-related dependencies on Purebasic - so do I.

Being used to Purebasic's typical update-cycle I started to consider new native and therefore cross-platform capabilities of PB (like now the canvas-gadget) also in my own projects' upcoming updates. You can say that this is my own fault and you're partially right - I trusted in something that was so typical for Purebasic til now: a well-known and therefore predictable process of a typical update-cycle of Purebasic.

These days there is really much in my job that has some specific relation to Purebasic and besides that I'm a big fan of it - I even mentioned Purebasic in many of my scientific papers or magazine-articles ... however, just like many of you/us I just want to know what is going on to be able to make the right decisions which (might also) have (some) impact in one's future/job/projects/plans/etc.

Cheers,
Didel.

[J. Baker]

Maybe they are secretly working on a 64bit version for Mac. Apple is moving that way and it's the only PB version that isn't 64bit.

[MachineCode]

on the other side we the customers do have the right to ask for a statement what the hack is going on regarding Purebasic

Yep. I think we've all been patient long enough. I don't think PureBasic is dead, but the team is treating their paying customers with utter contempt now. Enough is enough. Time to post an official comment, even if it's just something as short as "sorry for the delay, the new version is still underway". JUST DON'T IGNORE US ANY LONGER!

Looking back now at this thread from utopiomania, I can't help but wonder, if he's actually secretly referring to PureBasic itself? Everything fits, from the timeframe since that last official release (10 months), to his recent comment above in this thread that development of PureBasic has stopped. Strange coincidence.

[luis]

Don't forget we all paid a very small price for a compiler + ide + debugger, crossplatform and not bloated. And we had many updates for free (if you make a donation is a good thing but you are not asked to). Only thing I would prefer over the current methodology is more bug-crushing before features-enhancements.

Many times you buy a shareware or commercial product and left holding the bag after a couple or releases.

The difference is maybe that a programming language is a big investment in personal time and a leap of faith is needed concerning its future. Especially if it's not a standard language. If you write tons of code in C and your favorite compiler die, it's not nice but you can transfer all under another compiler with minor efforts. But you knew all of that in advance when you started using PB. That's the "leap of faith" part. If you want to be sure use C, C++, VBNet or whatever.

As long as what Fred said it's true, and I believe it is, maybe we shouldn't ask for more.

I see this thread being locked soon

[netmaestro]

The team has said before that if anything ever happens to Fred's ability to develop Purebasic, there are contingency plans in place to ensure its continued development. I trust that. I also trust that if there were "big news" in that regard, they wouldn't hesitate to publish it. They've always been upfront and honest with us. So relax. No news is good news.