Ads on the forums

[rrpl]

I think its a good idea as long as done in the simple way you have implemented it. You may generate more hits by putting them at the top of the page. I don't think this would really be any more intrusive really, but others may disagree? What can I say its a commercial world, not my choice, but its real.

[Arctic Fox]

It does not seem to work with Firefox.

[rsts]

Fine with FireFox 3.0.13

cheers

[Arctic Fox]

Using Firefox 3.5.2

[Ramihyn_]

I think, they are many out there, who would buy such Add-ons. If it`s good, I would buy it.

I would love to buy stuff to increase my productivity with PB. There are some nice commercial add-on's offered sometimes on these forums, but they are completely useless to me as they are windows-only. One pretty useful add-on i would like, is a plug-in for VStudio 2008 so the IDE recognizes the syntax of PB and advanced features can be used (like: show all references, jump to definition, context sensitive search/replace, popups with structure/interface definitions etc.).

Alternatively offer an advanced editor with these and other functions for an additional fee like 30€ or even 50€ if its really powerfull. Other companies offer add-ons like support for 4 different internet protocols (http/ftp/smtp/bittorrent for example) with a consistent interface as a library for a fee.

Basically - whatever is a) portable and b) stable and increases productivity, will be bought (at least by me .

[nco2k]

@Kale
we are all here, because pb is different from darkbasic and co. dont underestimate the lifetime update license model. however imho it should be optional +30€ or so. add-ons will only hurt the hobby coder and i doubt fred is aiming for mid-large companies. otherwise it wouldnt cost 79€.

@Fred
i cant see any ads with the subsilver2 template. btw you should put the ads on top aswell, because such small ads arent really disturbing imho.

c ya,
nco2k

[Fangbeast]

If you look carefully may be you will find some

Better not let fangles know; he'll go blind!

I'm blind already you utter bastard!!! Why do you have to leave your steaming underpants on the forum pages for me to stumble into?? That's just inhuman!! The colours that I could see before they took my eyesight were just disgusting (not to mention the strange steaming shapes coming from them)!!

Oh well, at least the guide-gerbil gets delivered next week and I can start training with it.

[netmaestro]

Ha, I clicked an ad and Bob Zale tried to sell me PowerBasic! Priceless!!

[Seymour Clufley]

I have no objection to adverts on the forums (I can't see them using Google Chrome, btw). But it does worry me that Fred wants adverts, as it suggests PB isn't generating enough money on its own.

The idea of add-ons seems like it would complicate development of PB.

Perhaps an approach would be to target specific userbases with each new version - eg. image/drawing with v4.4, something else with v4.5, again with v4.6, gradually adding more native capability to the language and "nailing" a userbase each time.

For example, the new 2DDrawing lib is very comprehensive. It's as if they want to do precisely what I've described: get 2DDrawing dealt with. And the result is a library vastly better than its predecessor! To my mind, the best addition is the CustomFilterCallback, because it enables users to "extend" the library with their own drawing modes. If Fred/Freak were to add Polygon(), FillAreaColor(), a pattern drawing mode, and some method of matrix filtering, then I think the 2DDrawing lib would be complete. There'd hardly be anything you couldn't draw with it. Then, the library could be forgotten about and they could move on to perfecting another library.

Of course, every idea that every one of us has feels like it would be "a great addition to PB" and "very useful for programmers of X persuasion". I, for example, would love a sound processing library, so that I could make VST effects and synths with PB. But how much new income would that ability bring?

Another approach is to "finalise the language", before adding/upgrading libraries. For example, the ability to have multidimensional arrays inside structures. The ability to redim any dimension of multidimensional arrays. To have a linked list inside a structure. These kinds of abilities would be useful to many people, no matter what they're programming.

Also the lifetime updates thing... maybe change it to X years of updates... four or five, maybe?

[Mistrel]

Also add proper OOP! i'd pay £100s for that!

I too would gladly pay for this!

I didn't even notice the ad until you mentioned it. I usually don't scroll down that far. I have no problem with you guys trying to make some extra cash so long as the ads inconspicuous.

Would it be possible to shrink the font on them a little bit though?

[Vera]

it's in the middle of the night and I can't find any sleep, harassed by frustration, anger and resignation
...
after all I got two hours sleep and I deleted my first posting - still:

why don't you first remove all the mischief that came with phpBB3 a lot of users still have to bear and desperately wait for relief or an answer so one could drop all niggling hopes before you bring in new inconveniences ?

Besides, do you realize that you're turning all forummembers into facultative 'cash cows' by trying to lead them into temptation for your personal benefit ?

How agressiv will the ads have to be pushed up in case you don't reach what your aiming at ?

Will members be punished who try to bypass ads, like some habits on free webhosters ?
Why not raise a fee to pay a ransom on free-ad-forum for premium members ?

near to resignation ~ Vera

Don't you think that simultaneous optimisation of diverging directions [reduce to maximum] is bound to fail ?

[Fred]

Vera, please calm down. If you knew us better, you will know we won't ever cripple the forums or "punish" users (what a wierd idea). PureBasic is not a freeware. As i said it's just a test. About the forums issue, i'm sorry but on every computer i test on, it was ok. I can't fix something i don't experience.

[rrpl]

it's in the middle of the night and I can't find any sleep, harassed by frustration, anger and resignation
...
after all I got two hours sleep and I deleted my first posting - still:

why don't you first remove all the mischief that came with phpBB3 a lot of users still have to bear and desperately wait for relief or an answer so one could drop all niggling hopes before you bring in new inconveniences ?

Besides, do you realize that you're turning all forummembers into facultative 'cash cows' by trying to lead them into temptation for your personal benefit ?

How agressiv will the ads have to be pushed up in case you don't reach what your aiming at ?

Will members be punished who try to bypass ads, like some habits on free webhosters ? Why not raise a fee to pay a ransom
on free-ad-forum for premium members ?

near to resignation ~ Vera

This guys got me in stitches. I think he may be funnier that the great KCC.
All this from a tiny little ads at the bottom of the page? Me wonders if he ever visted any other web sites??
But on a serious note, if you can't sleep take a pill, or glass of warm milk, oh and TV does it for me also.

Fred wrote;

About the forums issue, i'm sorry but on every computer i test on, it was ok.

Yeah, I think its good now also.

[DarkDragon]

I always thought.. how rich could I be if I would have an ad on the purebasic forums for 2 weeks.

[Trond]

I can't see any ad.