New Purebasic IDE and JaPBe comparison and then some...

[PB]

I see... so ;/ just changes the entire comment line to a different color?
Did you know the PureBasic IDE has supported ;- as a bookmark for years?

[Joakim Christiansen]

I see... so ;/ just changes the entire comment line to a different color?

Yeah, it's magic!

Did you know the PureBasic IDE has supported ;- as a bookmark for years?

Never tried it.

[dracflamloc]

and you can add ;{ and ;} to the folding keywords.

[Brice Manuel]

What do you guys think?

I actually started using jaPBe once I saw the new PB editor. But, I am probably in the minority on this

[Dare2]

JaPBe rocks.

Where is GPI these days?

[GedB]

I doubt the new IDE would have been so good if it hadn't been for the great work GPI did with jaPBe.

Competition is a wonderful thing.

I think it would be great if the source of the new IDE was made freely available. jaPBe's code has always been available.

Then the competition could continue, with each IDE able to easily take on the new features of the other thanks to the source availability.

[Truth_Seeker]

I agree but GPI is not posting these days...

[freak]

(1) When typing a procedure name, the status bar shows you which
parameter of the procedure the cursor is sitting at, whereas the PureBasic
IDE just shows the parameters. For procedures (and APIs) with lots of
params, it's easy to get lost and forget which parameter you're editing.

(2) Automatic case of procedure and variable names, etc -- but this is
easily emulated by using the TAB key with AutoComplete for now.

I have just added the (1). The current parameter is now displayed in bold. It
now also updates the statusbar on every cursor move as was requested a few times.

The (2) is noted for a later update.

About the statusbar display for your own procedures:
Yes, it only works for the current source for now. I will change it later to work on all files/a whole project.
It will require some re-structuring of the management of this stuff, and i do
not want to do that so shortly before the final release because it will most probably lead to more bugs,
with no remaining time to test/fix them.


Brice Manuel:

> I actually started using jaPBe once I saw the new PB editor. But, I am probably in the minority on this

Will you tell us why ?

Competition is a wonderful thing.

I think it would be great if the source of the new IDE was made freely available. jaPBe's code has always been available.

Then the competition could continue, with each IDE able to easily take on the new features of the other thanks to the source availability.

Yes, competition is a good thing, but simply copying the sourcecode of each other is not much of a competition, is it?

There are many reasons why in the end we decided not to make the source
of the new IDE public. One of them was the fact that making the old IDE
open source did not bring the results we hoped. (the contributions from
other people to the IDE source were very few)


Anyway, the reason why there is an additional "standalone debugger" now
is only to allow for the use of third-party editors such as jaPBe.

So lets hope a good competition continues...

[Truth_Seeker]

Freak, thanks for replying!

[Brice Manuel]

Will you tell us why ?

Although I like some of the new features in the new editor (especially folding), I do not like that I can no longer put the "procedure browser" as a combo box on the toolbar, where it is out of the way, but very easy to access. With the new editor, I have to have the procedure browser taking up space on the side, or have it "floating" or use the menu anytime I want to access it. Definitely not as "user friendly" and "intuitive" as it used to be. But, I know I am in the minority on this.

jaPBe has the same issue, but I am using it until I can find a third-party IDE, I like and can afford. If not, I will revert back to the 3.93 PB Editor.

[Joakim Christiansen]

Brice Manuel you could try to use a higher screen-resolution.
Mine is 1152x864, and I have plenty of space for my code.
But I agree, it would be cool if we could hide that thing.

[freak]

You can also have the sidepanel in autohide mode now, in which case it takes up only very little space.

[Brice Manuel]

Mine is 1152x864, and I have plenty of space for my code.

Egads! I would never be able to see it. I am running 800x600 on a 19" monitor. Anything higher is too small for me.

You can also have the sidepanel in autohide mode now, in which case it takes up only very little space.

I tried that, but the "flicking" was too annoying.

[Kale]

I've always used the official PB Editors and all have done the job just fine. I must admit i love the new one on MacOSX as well as Windows.

[Hurga]

What i use a lot i is the auto-intend- feature. Im must confess i m not up to date with new IDE, but when i tested it last, there was no such thing...
Is it in nowadays? That would be my jump to the new ide, i guess.