Opera 8.00 Final is out!

Bonne_den_kule · Post by **Bonne_den_kule** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:55 pm

Suddenly Opera 8.00 Final is out to fight against Firefox The fastest (and my opinion the best) browser is out in a new version. Get it at http://www.opera.com

PS: Beware of high traffic.

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:59 pm

hmm opera is sure fast copmared to internetexplorer, but FireFox is the fastest!

also with all the nice plugins firefox haves i think that is the best browser(also its free.. not some Adware :S )

but opera is a nice peace of software i just cant agree that its the fastest and best

Bonne_den_kule · Post by **Bonne_den_kule** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:07 pm

thefool wrote:hmm opera is sure fast copmared to internetexplorer, but FireFox is the fastest!

also with all the nice plugins firefox haves i think that is the best browser(also its free.. not some Adware :S )

but opera is a nice peace of software i just cant agree that its the fastest and best

You are wrong, Opera is faster. Look at this standalone test at: http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

Conclusion from this test:

So overall, Opera seems to be the fastest browser for windows. Firefox is not faster than Internet Explorer, except for scripting, but for standards support, security and features, it is a better choice. However, it is still not as fast as Opera, and Opera also offers a high level of standards support, security and features.

On Linux, Konqueror is the fastest for starting and viewing basic pages on KDE, but as soon as script or images are involved, or you want to use the back or forward buttons, or if you use Gnome, Opera is a faster choice, even though on KDE it will take a few seconds longer to start. Mozilla and Firefox give an overall good performance, but their script, cache handling and image-based page speed still cannot compare with Opera.

On Mac OS X, Opera and Safari are both very fast, with Safari 2 being faster at starting and rendering CSS, but with Opera still being distinguishably faster for rendering tables, scripting and history (especially compared with the much slower Safari 1.2). Camino is fast to start, but then it joins its sisters Mozilla and Firefox further down the list. Neither Mozilla, Firefox nor IE perform very well on Mac, being generally slower than on other operating systems.

On Mac OS 9, no single browser stands out as the fastest. In fact, my condolences to anyone who has to use one of them, they all perform badly.

Here is result for a online test of javascript speed on the browser. Guess who's the fastest:
http://www.24fun.com/write/benchjsresults.html

Results:

TopTen, all Operating Systems, all Browsers
1 Kris, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 2.20-2.39GHz 4.34 seconds, April 19, at 09:42:20
2 lunddal, Opera 8.0, Mac OS, 2.40-2.59GHz 4.55 seconds, April 19, at 08:53:08
3 freddo, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 1.80-1.89GHz 4.59 seconds, April 19, at 10:12:58
4 noname, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 1.80-1.89GHz 4.6 seconds, April 19, at 10:08:19
5 Andrew, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 1.40-1.49GHz 4.68 seconds, April 19, at 07:46:00
6 Kris, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 2.20-2.39GHz 4.69 seconds, April 19, at 09:44:22
7 noname, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 2.40-2.59GHz 4.87 seconds, April 19, at 09:50:39
8 djet, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 2.80-2.99GHz 4.93 seconds, April 19, at 08:20:23
9 Jeroen, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 2.60-2.79GHz 5.22 seconds, April 19, at 10:10:27
10 aa, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 3.00-3.19GHz 5.28 seconds, April 19, at 08:53:45

TopFive Windows/NT, Internet Explorer, MyIE2
1 drew, Explorer 6.x, Windows XP, 3.60-3.79GHz 9.47 seconds, April 19, at 10:07:47
2 Munky, Explorer 6.x, Windows XP, 3.00-3.19GHz 9.72 seconds, April 19, at 10:08:55
3 Veritech, Explorer 6.x, Windows XP, 2.20-2.39GHz 10.81 seconds, April 19, at 08:40:24
4 Kris, Explorer 6.x, Windows XP, 2.20-2.39GHz 10.87 seconds, April 19, at 09:48:33
5 asd, Explorer 6.x, Windows XP, 2.40-2.59GHz 11.56 seconds, April 19, at 10:13:11

TopFive Windows/NT, Netscape, Mozilla, Firebird, Firefox
1 ro, Firefox 1.x, Windows XP, 1.50-1.59GHz 7.55 seconds, April 19, at 10:17:14
2 ro, Firefox 1.x, Windows XP, 1.50-1.59GHz 7.59 seconds, April 19, at 10:22:37
3 noname, Firefox 1.x, Windows XP, 99 MHz or lower 7.67 seconds, April 19, at 10:22:49
4 Kris, Firefox 1.x, Windows XP, 2.20-2.39GHz 7.75 seconds, April 19, at 09:46:13
5 ro, Firefox 1.x, Windows XP, 1.50-1.59GHz 7.79 seconds, April 19, at 10:03:19

TopFive Windows/NT, Opera
1 Kris, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 2.20-2.39GHz 4.34 seconds, April 19, at 09:42:20
2 freddo, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 1.80-1.89GHz 4.59 seconds, April 19, at 10:12:58
3 noname, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 1.80-1.89GHz 4.6 seconds, April 19, at 10:08:19
4 Andrew, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 1.40-1.49GHz 4.68 seconds, April 19, at 07:46:00
5 Kris, Opera 8.0, Windows XP, 2.20-2.39GHz 4.69 seconds, April 19, at 09:44:22

TopFive Mac OS, all browsers
1 lunddal, Opera 8.0, Mac OS, 2.40-2.59GHz 4.55 seconds, April 19, at 08:53:08
2 lunddal, Opera 8.0, Mac OS, 2.40-2.59GHz 5.32 seconds, April 19, at 08:56:46
3 lunddal, Opera 8.0, Mac OS, 2.40-2.59GHz 5.41 seconds, April 19, at 09:01:00
4 noname, Opera 8.0, Mac OS, 1.00-1.09GHz 5.42 seconds, April 19, at 09:13:48
5 some, Safari, Mac OS, 2.40-2.59GHz 5.8 seconds, April 19, at 08:35:07

TopFive Linux, all browsers
1 asdfasdf, Opera 8.0, Linux, 1.70-1.79GHz 5.78 seconds, April 19, at 10:05:57
2 rin, Opera 8.0, Linux, 2.00-2.19GHz 6.03 seconds, April 19, at 08:48:00
3 olekasper, Opera 8.0, Linux, 1.70-1.79GHz 6.46 seconds, April 19, at 10:01:30
4 asgs, Opera 8.0, Linux, 1.70-1.79GHz 6.7 seconds, April 19, at 10:04:25
5 Pinaraf, Opera 8.0, Linux, 1.40-1.49GHz 7.16 seconds, April 19, at 09:49:26

Ok, it has ads, but it's in a small little rectangle up to right on the app.

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:25 pm

its not a little rectangle is just as annoying as every ad on a homepage. i dont care a shit about those tests its done by people who gets paid. on my copmuter firefox is way faster than internet explorer & opera.

the first test are done with internet xplorer 5.2 and firefox 1.0 wich is WAY behind the newest versions (6.0 and 1.0.2) yeah, the last 0.2 is about some months for firefox. So dont come with those old tests made by an opera fanatic like you

the second test is done by users computers and i must say: i know more people with slow computers that uses firefox than opera. Opera is not as widely used and therefor not at so many old computers. Thats why the second test cant count as usable.

no offence im just saying those test cant tell a shit

edit: and dont misunderstand me.. i like opera! and its great they have an ad version but i just think firefox is faster

Num3 · Post by **Num3** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:52 pm

Ok... I lined up at 3 browsers....

And Opera sure beat the crap out of Mozilla and IE...

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:01 pm

ok maybe but still that ad is really annoying me..

ill try some more tests with opera. afterall several people say its faster

Num3 · Post by **Num3** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:13 pm

thefool wrote:ok maybe but still that ad is really annoying me..

ill try some more tests with opera. afterall several people say its faster

Yes, the Ad sure are crappy, but there are two types to choose from, google text ads or the nasty banner ones...

Ehehe... Of course you can just add google ads server in your host file pointing to 127.0.0.1

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:17 pm

hehe good idea

but also if someone is running 1024*768 the ad adds about 1 cm to the toolbar height thats damn irritating..
of course, ollydbg is just around the cornor but that wouldnt be fair for the developers. Especially when they also provide an free ad version..!

but of course someone could accidentally add google ad server in the host file

freedimension · Post by **freedimension** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:34 pm

Num3 wrote:Ehehe... Of course you can just add google ads server in your host file pointing to 127.0.0.1

Why messing up the host file when Opera comes with built in functionality for that task. Simply put this

Code: Select all

[prefs]
prioritize excludelist=1

[include]
*

[exclude]
http://ad.*
http://ads.*
http://adserv*
http://banner*
http://count*
http://*/ads/*
http://*/Ads/*
http://*/banners/*
http://*/ad/*
http://*/Ad/*
http://*/banner/*
http://*espotting.com/*
http://www.heise.de/qc/commerce/*

in operas filter.ini and restart

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:35 pm

it can cheat itself

Num3 · Post by **Num3** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:13 pm

Doh!

Talk about dumb !

Edwin Knoppert · Post by **Edwin Knoppert** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:24 pm

I did that, still see MBA banner.
filter.ini in C:\Program Files\Opera right?

freedimension · Post by **freedimension** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:40 pm

Edwin Knoppert wrote:I did that, still see MBA banner.
filter.ini in C:\Program Files\Opera right?

You have to activate the filter.ini. To do so simply open the Opera6.ini and add the following line to the [Adv User Prefs] section
URL Filter File=C:\Program Files\Opera\filter.ini

ebs · Post by **ebs** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:00 pm

freedimension,

I followed your suggestions regarding creating the filter.ini file and adding the line to the OperaDef6.ini (I don't have an Opera6.ini file). However, the banner ads still appear. Are you certain that the filter settings affect the ads, and not just the main browser window?

Regards,
Eric

Edwin Knoppert · Post by **Edwin Knoppert** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:06 pm

Me too.