Grids - Where is the Grid Gadget?

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Grids - Where is the Grid Gadget?

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I was searching the post and found many examples of how to program a grid gadget or use other objects with some coding to create ones but they alway fell short of the posting person's expectations because of course they are not a grid gadget.

I am exploring the use of Pure Basic for a project before purchasing and grids are something I use often in my applications. I have the following questions:

1. Are there considerations to create a grid gadget?
2. When will it be available?
3. What features and functionality will it have?
4. If there are no plans, why is this not important for Pure Basic?

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Um, what is a grid gadget?
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I am speaking about a grid control, my apologies as many different basic dialects refer to them as other things. If you were trying to make the other point, that there is none, point has already been taken.

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It was a rhetorical question!
What is a Grid gadget/grid control.

You said some of the solutions or examples posted on this forum was unsatisfactory!

So what should a good grid control be, in your eyes?
what features does it need to have, what must it's abilites be?
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Post by Shannara »

There are no grid gadget for PB, there are some attempts at a grid gadget but none in a easy usable gadget fashion :) There is a 3rd party dll solution only if you can cough up a few hundred $$$ :D
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> If there are no plans, why is this not important for Pure Basic?

Maybe because nobody has asked for it before. You're the first person
I've seen ask for it, and I've been here for years. :)
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PB wrote:> If there are no plans, why is this not important for Pure Basic?

Maybe because nobody has asked for it before. You're the first person
I've seen ask for it, and I've been here for years. :)
Maybe you havn't seen them, but that question pops up now and then. It's not a new wish ;)
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> Maybe you havn't seen them, but that question pops up now and then

Okay then, I stand corrected, and apologize to neomlsra.
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PB wrote:> Maybe you havn't seen them, but that question pops up now and then

Okay then, I stand corrected, and apologize to neomlsra.
No need to apologize for something you didn't know ;)

As to the Question: I myself know at least two VB developers who wanted to migrate to PB but stood back because there is no built in Grid-Gadget :(
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PBSGPLIB is a commercial library which has a simple grid.
You can find it on my site.
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Fred said there will be a GridGadget in the next version
French Forum http://purebasic.hmt-forum.com/viewtopi ... highlight=
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> No need to apologize for something you didn't know ;)

Hmm, but I've been in a bad mood lately, and I think it's coming across in my
replies. I should back off for a while until things pick up in my personal life.
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To All Responders,

I want to thank all of you for responding, it appears that there will be support in version 4.0 for a Grid Control Out-of-the-Box with PureBasic. That satisfies me that the developers are listening. The commercially available products are good, just a little steep considering the single functionality I require of a grid control. The library is more promising as it brings more to the table. A complete set of enhancements across many common requirements for applications.

Let me give you an idea of why a grid control is important.

Data Display of Rows and Columns. It is often the need in applications, especailly business oriented or even other types where it is important to display views of data. I am writing an application for writers of fiction stories. The very first screen will be a views screen that will allow the writer to catch up and view the story elements in different ways to pull themselves back down into the world they have created. It will give them a quick dive into the story so they can accellarate the writing process. It may even let them see connections and story lines not previously seen such as viewing character data and ideas together or relationships and personalities between characters, etc.

I know you can use a list view control but it does not give you the same functionality as a grid control typically would. This is an important project for me, a personal project as it is driven by my own needs as a hobbyist writer. I am working on developing a writing application that will cross platforms between desktops and pda devices. I already have the CE and Palm versions in progress, I am now looking for a tool for the desktop. I have been a VB developer for many years but the appeal of different platforms such as the PC, Linux and possibly Mac in the future opens up more potential for expanding markets.

I hope the grid control does come. Because it is important to my application I will deveop other areas of the application first to test Pure Basic before purchasing and come back to the initial screen after I purchase the product and once release 4.x is out if it is not too long.

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