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Horror of Horrors, my Windows PC crashed due to a malfunctioning
driver (oemdisk,sys for Iomega). In trying to remove this driver as a
critical boot device, I inadvertantly crashed it so that it could not reboot.

I had to reinstall windows, meaning lots of reinstalls, downloads, and
reboots. I lost my email accounts, where most of my registration,
userid, and password information were archived in various folders and
messages.

One of the big losses was the registration information I had for purebasic.
I can't use the Download link on the www.purebasic.page without it, I
can't get into my purebasic account, and I need to get around this
limitation somehow.

I tried to email webmaster@purebasic.com and support@purebasic.com,
and so far there has been no response. Can someone let me know if I
am on the right track for getting help, or is there someone else I should
be trying to contact?
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no backup? ouch...

anyway, yes, that's the right way, i'm pretty sure fred will contact you as soon as he sees your message
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oldefoxx: try alphasnd[at]purebasic[(dot)]com

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Post by oldefoxx »

I know, I know. But going to a backup would cost me in terms of
recent work, particularly my e-mail. I finally figured out a way to
recover lost e-mail accounts under IncrediMail, but the extra work of
backup and restore of accounts and everything else to bring a backup
up to date is more than I care to contemplate -- especially since I should
be able to just ask a question and get an answer.

I've sent off email already to PureBasic, and hopefully I will get an
answer soon. I just posted this in case I was doing it wrong, or there
was someone specific I should be addressing. I'll give it a few days,
then send some more email, using the info posted here.
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i use a trifold backup structure...

1. very regular execution of a batch script that arj's specific often changing information to an alternative location (other machine on the network)

2. synchronizing with external harddisk

3. burn and store cd-roms in an external location (my parents place :-))

i once suffered a serious crash and have been nervous since then
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Post by oldefoxx »

I've suffered many crashes over the years, and have come to regard
reinstalling Windoes to be a minor annoyance, as long as I can either
reinstall or recover the applications and files on the hard drive. This
time it took me a long day to get everything back, and only took so
long because I had to map out a way to get back my IncrediMail
accounts. In fact, though I don't like giving up a day to do this, I
find that it usually improves security and rersponsiveness, and I often
use it as a time for checking for possible updates to my favorite
programs. So it has some benedit. Much better now with broadband
for getting updates quickly from the Internet. Before, using dial-up,
it use to take me on an average of three days to do a full recovery,
and that was with a lot fewer applications than I enjoy now.

The other thing is that, like most other people, I moved over to CD-Rs
for archives. But as CD-Rs got faster, I found my backup software
was producing buffer underruns. In other words, If my backup
required 37 disks, I could bet on at least one or two disks being
unprocessable, spoiling the whole backup and turning the whole set
into junk. There was no way to test the disk and regenerate any one
that proved defective.

I finally found a way around the problem: I bought 60 CD-RW disks,
which are limited to 4X speed, and write my backup to them. My
backup problem has no problem keeping up with the 4X speed. Each
CD-RW maxes out at 650 MB, which means it takes additional disks to
complete the backup. Then I use a CD copier program to copy the
CD-RWs over to CD-Rs. The CD copier program deals with buffer
underruns, and I end up with two backups - one or CR-RWs, which
can be erased and reused, and always have my most recent backup,
and another on faster, permanent CD-Rs. Of course I can only store
650 MB from the CD-R's, but technically I could use the extra 50 MB
on each for something else. Except with the cost of CD-Rs so low,
why bother?

But, running at only 4X, backing up to some 40 disks takes a long
time, and you have to sit there and swap out each one and lable it.
Then when you copy the CD set, you hafe to sit there and swap them
out again, handling two disks atonce, labling the new ones, still
limited to the maximum speed that the CD-RWs can be processed at.

So you say, get a better backup program! Maybe. But I've dozens
of backup sets, and hardly ever use one, preferring to reinstall windows
it I can save my critical files that way. So now I do backups very
infrequently, and only before and after a substantial upgrade.

What I'm waiting for is the next generation of removable storage
devices - not DVD, but devices that will store 30 GB to 300 GB on a
single external storage medium. I could use an external hard drive,
but other technologies look even more promising. So I figure I will
wait awhile, unless I get a consulting or software development job.
Then I will have to bite the bullet and settle on something here and
now, to protect my current configuration, and to safeguard client
information and code as well.
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Post by PB »

I have 2 main drives: C and D. I have Windows on C, and install all apps on D.
Now... I use Norton Ghost to backup an image of C to D. This is usually done
after I've installed Windows and my favorite apps. So then, whenever I need
to reinstall Windows, I just reformat C and restore its snapshot from D to C.
This means I can "reinstall" a clean setup of Windows and have all my apps
running within a mere 10 minutes or so... instead of a whole day doing it. ;)
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Post by Dare2 »

That's a good idea.

Do you take a new image from time to time (eg, after a significant install) or is it better to just take the OS?

And do you know of any ghosting or imaging software other than Nortons?
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Post by jack »

I use Drive Image by PowerQuest, unfortunately PowerQuest was bought by Symantec :(
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> Do you take a new image from time to time (eg, after a significant install)

Yes, after every major app install (well, those that use the Registry anyway).
Because the apps are installed on D, it doesn't matter that I reformat C and
then restore the snapshot -- because the snapshot includes all the Registry
data that the app on D needs. :)
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Post by blueb »

oldeFoxx,

The easiest way is to use "Norton Ghost 2003". (It also must go to DOS to do it's copying) I'm using Win XP Pro.

It makes a complete image of your hard drive and copies it to another location. It's more than just a partion with information... it's an identical drive copy.

I have my 2 drives encased in removable 'cages'. Every evening I copy from one to the other. If my first drive should crash, I simply remove it and install the bottom one in the top slot. Easy, fast and effective.

When everything gets back to normal, I place the 'bad' drive in the bottom slot and 'Ghost' over it. After that, I'm back to 2 good copies.(unless the drive is toast)

P.S. - I have the same setup at work, except I use 6 drives. Every night I duplicate that day's drive, and rotate drives Monday through Friday. If something goes bad with our system (e.g. accounting), I have the option of going back up to 5 days if necessary. Very handy.

So far, I have reverted to the backup once in each location. I could live with restoring from CD's from home... but it'd be a disaster at work.

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Post by oldefoxx »

Some clever ideas being brought up. My company settled on two drives, C: and D:, years ago, with the OS on C: and Apps and data on D:. It was
problematic though, since some Apps insist on installing themselves on C:
anyway. That meant that you had Apps on the wrong drive if you wanted
to just back up the OS. Usually was not a big issue, though.

I tried Ghost years ago, but stuck with DriveImage. However, as I said, DriveImage does a poor job of writing to high speed CD-Rs, which I
could only get around by writing to slow CD-RWs instead. The thing is,
the development for DriveImage, PartitionMagic, Diskeeper, and
certain other products all went from these great leaps forward to mere
tweaks from one release to the next. You could virtually see the great
talent that created these programs leaving the programs to lesser hands
to maintain and support, and eventually those lesser hands were able
to tweak out a new release, which often seemed to be mostly a more
attractive interface. I finally gave up on Diskeeper after testing
Perfectdisk and finding it superior in all respects.

I particularly like the idea of using a removable drive, but have to go
slow right now on buying things because we still have a hurricane to
recover from. A connection over a USB is better than over FireWire
because it is more universally found on other PCs. I have no slot open
for installing a removable drive into the PC, so have to consider an
external one.

Rotating drives is not really necessary if you create an alternate boot
drive setup and extra partition on the removable drive, or permit a boot from CD, since you can then copy the backup drive back over the original.

I would suggest that you backup the Registry to the backup drive as well.
If you have to reinstall Windows, you can reload the Registry and should
be able to recover access to the installed Apps and other critical
Registry settings. You should also create the recommended Emergency
Recovery Disks, and if your backup software wants to create its own
set of backup disks, that might be a good idea too.

Backing up just the OS or doing a full backup, backing up all drives in
one backup or backing each drive up individually, are some of the
choices available to you. You should have at least one full backup of
everything. After that, depending upon what is modified or added to
various disks, you might want to do individual drive images.

It's a judgement thing. You have to keep in mind what you stand to
lose if you have to reinstall a backup. Or what you cannot afford to
lose because you have no backup.
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Post by blueb »

These 'removable' drives are regular ATA drives that are enclosed in a cage that slides into one of your computer's drive bays.

I have found the model number that I use. They have been totally reliable over the last 3 years. They are made by Lian Li (model RH32)
see: http://www.lian-li.com.tw/english/produ ... &prdid=860

The joy of using this setup is that Norton makes a complete byte-for-byte duplicate on the second drive each night. If the main drive somehow "breaks", shut down the computer and simply pop in the backed-up drive into the main drive's slot and re-start your computer. You are off and running. No juggling CD's, no partions, no registry saving, etc., etc.

These cages are about $40 USD and an ATA drive can be had for $100 or less. If you have 2 drives now, all you'd need are the cages and Norton's Ghost.

>> I have no slot open
Then I'd check out the possibility of changing towers. These can be had for $60 and up. This might seem extreme, but it's easy to do and if it saves you from losing a weeks worth of programming, or other vlauable information... it's worth the effort.

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Post by oldefoxx »

I still haven't heard anything from anyone at PureBasic about my
inability to access the download link. It's been awhile, so either
they are super busy, haven't read my email, the email was sent
to the wrong party, or something else is afoot here. I'm sure I
can't be the only party to have run into this situation.
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Post by PB »

> I still haven't heard anything from anyone at PureBasic about my
> inability to access the download link

Send a mail to fred (at) purebasic.com -- perhaps support isn't redirecting
there properly for some reason? Fred will surely help if he gets the mail.
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