Please fix this annoyingly slow forum

[NicTheQuick]

Hi Fred,

the whole day now the forums are very very unresponsive and I really don't like to surf it like that.

I just tested a simple curl to the main page and it took more than 20 seconds as an anonymous user to load just the index:

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$ time curl https://www.purebasic.fr/english/index.php > /dev/null
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100 63428    0 63428    0     0   2816      0 --:--:--  0:00:22 --:--:-- 14517

real	0m22,529s
user	0m0,023s
sys	0m0,007s

Isn't there anything you can do about that? What's keeping the server so slow?

[Fred]

Rogue AI crawling can take down any website, nothing we can do about it. Moving to cloudflare protection can also have its own issues..

[NicTheQuick]

Rogue AI crawling can take down any website, nothing we can do about it. Moving to cloudflare protection can also have its own issues.

I just searched around a bit and the best solution I found was indeed the Cloudflare Protection which can block these kinds of attacks and still does not cost any money. What issues does that protection have?

[jack]

this mining of the AI bots could potentially promote PureBasic and hindering the bots could potentially have a negative impact

[NicTheQuick]

this mining of the AI bots could potentially promote PureBasic and hindering the bots could potentially have a negative impact

I don't think so. The good AI bots don't take down a whole website until it's nearly unusable. I don't think that Gemini, ChatGPT or Perplexity would do that. It's only the aggressive bots that need to be filtered out.

[MicroStream]

I've noticed that too now, although it wasn't always like that. We can only hope that a solution to this dilemma will be found soon.

[Drone]

Hi

Yes, it is very annoying.

[NicTheQuick]

And it's not only the forums. The whole domain is slow as hell.
Yesterday I wanted to browse the documentation via browser but I had to wait around 20 seconds after each click. Or did you try to open just https://www.purebasic.com ? I takes double the time because of an additional redirect in between.

[skywalk]

Absolutely, PB is known to the AI bots.
The forum and domain needs some defenses like human detection and bot throttling to slow down their browsing. Also, turn off guest accounts making bots register and then log the aggressive accounts.

[threedslider]

Yes me too, it is very slow sadly

I think the whole domain of Purebasic + forum need to be supported by cloudflare

[Olli]

I am very surprised : I have absolutely no problem

Excepted I must click << I don't consent >> on every page, since three years, I have absolutely no problem, as you describe...

[skywalk]

Olli - Are you in Fred's basement?

[NicTheQuick]

I am very surprised : I have absolutely no problem

Excepted I must click << I don't consent >> on every page, since three years, I have absolutely no problem, as you describe...

Since yesterday everything is working fast again. You're just late to the waiting party.

[Fred]

I put cloudflare as DNS let's see if it's better overtime

[Drone]

I am very surprised : I have absolutely no problem

Excepted I must click << I don't consent >> on every page, since three years, I have absolutely no problem, as you describe...

Hi
I have problem with Firefox , could NOT log in. But when I used the Brave browser there where no problem at all .... ?

EDIT :
Got this error from Firefox : (Used Google translate)

Secure connection failed

The connection to the server was interrupted while a page was loading.

The page you are trying to access cannot be displayed because the authenticity of the transmitted data could not be verified.
Contact the site owner and inform them of the problem.