Commodore is back!

[Caronte3D]

I never had a Commodore 64, but I've had every Amiga, from the 500 to the 4000 one.
I wish they the best.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/J-GZBvIneQU

[TI-994A]

With all due respect, I don't quite understand the point of this reboot.

Commodore made some pretty amazing computers back in the day, as did Texas Instruments, Radio Shack, Sinclair, and the likes. Those who were privileged to have lived through that wonderful age won't soon forget it, and the nostalgia will continue to burn in our hearts.

However, while I still treasure my original TI-99/4A home computer, I have no practical use for it. I have taken it out from time to time and fired it up just to run some lines of code and hear it speak a few words (mine could talk ). But fun as it is, the novelty simply wears off, and back into storage it goes. I certainly wouldn't buy a brand new version of it now even if it offered enhanced capabilities.

The truth is, the magical memories of those good old days, as we tinkered with our wondrous new toys, making them do things as we typed in instructions, were quite incomparable, and that is what most of us continue to long for. Buying a brand new relic might conjure some of those nice memories, but that's about it.

Unless this reboot is able to carve a considerable hobbyist niche, I don't see it going far.

Sorry if I burst any bubbles. Just sharing my two cents.

[spikey]

I can see a use. I see a problem periodically in programmers who've only learnt high level OOP languages like C# but nothing like C++, and in fact even C++ only students are not immune to the problem if they've only studied the language in isolation. They've no idea whatsoever how a microprocessor actually works. This can lead to a number of blinkered thinking problems and even seriously flawed code in the wrong circumstances. I've more than once had to explain how there aren't really any objects kicking around and, sometimes, it was hard work.

Even though I learnt Z80 and 6502 series MPU's at college and some 68000 series in my apprenticeship I still find the Intel instruction set mind-blowingly complex and impossible to really comprehend in the way that I used to be able to program other systems. I have tried to study up a couple of times, the learning curve is incredibly steep and the documentation set is truly enormous!

Simple instructions sets on slow processors have a learning use case to ease the path into real modern CPUs which will be necessary for hardware and kernel level implementers. I would hate to try and teach a new class the Intel instruction set as their first CPU, I'm sure it would be really hard work for both lecturer and student.

[miso]

There is a live community around the retro machines. New games/demos are coming every month to C64, Amiga, NES, SNES, Plus4, etc.
They love to work under the limitations of these computers for fun. When one says something can't be done on this machine, and the other: wait, hold my beer.

[Caronte3D]

...When one says something can't be done on this machine, and the other: wait, hold my beer.

This is the essence
Anyway, I think like TI-994A, I loved the Amiga, but I wouldn't use it today.

[Piero]

Cuttin' edge audio cassette "duplicates"!

[miso]

I don't know whos interested in this little movie from my little country.
The title is : Demoscene - The art of the algorythms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=deskt ... RkZcTg1JWU

It's in english, but theres people talking from all over europe in it. Has subtitles for 15 languages including english french german italian russian polish etc.

[Piero]

this little movie from my little country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqX6Edi2kTY
Caribbean counter-electronics

PS: Electronics example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5imD1rhxGRo

[BarryG]

With all due respect, I don't quite understand the point of this reboot.

I grew up with a VIC-20 and C64 and know them very well (and from a coding point-of-view, too). I agree this is pointless reboot, done for nostalgia only. It's not going to go anywhere. Hobbyists, collectors and enthusiasts all prefer to use/restore the original machines. All the software for it is not even commercially available anymore, so it would take a whole slew of new software to get it going, which I don't see happening. I see it as no different to releasing computers with DOS only, and thinking it's going to become relevent again. Um, nope. Snowball's chance in hell.

Buying a brand new relic might conjure some of those nice memories, but that's about it.

I bought the C64 Mini (and also "Maxi") for my memories (https://retrogames.biz/products/thec64/). But, to be honest, I mainly just use VICE on my PC when I need my nostalgia hit (https://vice-emu.sourceforge.io/). It's hard for me to see a real C64 becoming popular again when the "Maxi" does the job already (it has a real keyboard and the unit is the same size as the old real C64).

[Piero]