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Hello,

I'm one of these (older) guys who uses microsoft products for a very long time ...

- DOS
- Win 95
- Win 98
- Win XP
- Win 7
- Win 8...8.1
- Win 10

But today it stops, no more windows for me. :evil: :x

So, for all my robot/cnc stuff, I want to switch to Linux, but i know nothing at all of linux.

Q) What is the best linux (graphical) version for using PB ogre/graphics ?


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Marc
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I guess Ubuntu abd may be Debian
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Hi Marc,

Linux is new to you, so I would say play it safe and choose something more mainstream like Debian or Ubuntu, as dige said.

That would at least make it easier to get PB running. Having said that, it is possible to get PB running on whatever Linux if you are prepared to do a bit of work regarding installing dependencies.

Personally, I choose Void Linux and Devuan. Void is a rolling release so it's more cutting edge, Devuan more stable.

Devuan is based on Debian but without systemd(that matters to some people). It has pretty much the same amount of software in it's repos as Debian i.e. about 65,000+ packages.

Void is a bit more niche, as far as popularity goes, but I've been using it for a number of years and found it to be very stable. It is a rolling release, so you should be able to install it once and it will continually update. Unlike Arch based systems, it updates more conservatively, which I prefer for stability. It is also systemd free, and although it only has about 20,000+ packages in it's repos, I have found that what I want/need is typically available.

There are plenty of other Linux distributions to choose from, which can be a bit overwhelming. You may have to try a few out before you find one that suits you?

I don't know much about ogre, other than that it's to do with 3D graphics(I think?). Linux is more than capable of handling that sort of stuff, but again you might have to install the right dependencies?

Good luck with your voyage into Linux! Give me a shout if you need any assistance. :?:

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I made the switch to Linux recently - running Debian 12.
All of my old PB apps that i tried so far worked fine (mainly 2D stuff).
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I posted compiled 3D graphics from the author pf shadoko and it worked on almost all Linux.
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It would be interesting to get a roll call of what distros people are using.

I'm also looking at going back to Linux as main OS as well, I've suffered windows 11 long enough and in two days time it'll be hoisting a forced major update, not that it will update as I've blocked all the telemetry DNS requests to M$

I recently tried Zorin on an old PC and it appeared to be a good 1st choice coming from windows. After I installed synaptic package manager it was really easy to see what dev packages were installed.

I also like Manjaro and used that for around 6 years, it was also easy to set up PB. It does need frequent updates and it's best not to get behind on them, I once had an issue where the easiest solution was to reinstall.

The main consideration for what distro to use is hardware compatibility, graphic drivers, like some distros won't have proprietary drivers immediately available and that also applies to codecs.

Perhaps one of the most useful things to know going to linux is to get your home folder moved to a separate partition, that way you can easily recover from a disaster should you need to reinstall.
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:D Am I imagining it or are a lot more people quitting Windows for Linux (myself included!)

I just couldn't stand to start using Windows 11 on my new home computer...

I've been using ElementaryOS for a few weeks and having a great time, it's based on Ubuntu LTS, PureBasic works well, along with most software I use. Only noticed a few minor bug/quirks, but there is a major update 8.0 coming very soon.
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I think a lot of windows people will be abandoning it. It's not just the EOL of 10 or the forced updates to 11 and the unwanted changes, it's also the telemetry, tracking and p2p stuff. Windows is malware by almost any definition of the term.
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Hello,

I didn't know that there are so many linux versions on the market ...
It is very hard to select the good one.
So, I used YouTube for my first help.

But for my robot and cnc project I just installed Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon x64,
just for testing and see if it will install on my small
LattePanda Delta SBC, 4 GB RAM and 32 GB SSD ...

And it works from the first try,
All drivers are working without any problem,
Mouse = OK
Keyboard = OK
Screen = OK
SSD = OK
USBs = OK

Waw, I'm really impressed ... 8)

I need to play with it to see PB works with all my graphical programs ...

There are also other not linux OS on the market,
like kolibry OS, Munuet OS, and lots more.


Thanks,
Marc

PS: so bye, bye windows, except my windows 7 pro x64 PC 8)
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And this,

Some extra info,
PB, Blender, Arduino IDE, Krita, VLC, Gimp, Firefox, Thunderbird, ... they all have Linux versions, WAW.
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I use Mint Linux LMDE.
It is based on Debian 12 and runs better as a VM than Ubuntu 24.04
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idle wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:19 am I also like Manjaro
I also used it to test the line of Arch-like OS. But I was constantly criticized on the forum, sending me to the Manjaro forum to solve my problems. Arch is more difficult to install, it does not have an installation manager, but only a script, which is not obvious. So I tried Anarchy and EndeavorOS. According to the advice on the forum, if you choose Arch Linux, then EndeavourOS is better. But I now have Anarchy, it’s been running for 3.5 years. EndeavourOS worked for me as a test one, I was too lazy to transfer the old OS from Anarchy to EndeavourOS, in the end due to lack of space I had to delete it during the update.
I would advise you to allocate 25-50GB * 3-5 at the end of the disk and install several OS. Then you can choose the one in which it is more convenient for you to work. And those that you don’t like should be deleted and combined with the previous disk. I don't make "home" a separate partition, since programs on different OSes have different versions and different configuration files. At any time I have access to "home" from another OS or from a LiveCD, so there is no need to do this separately.
If I were installing an OS for someone, I would choose Mint, since I like Cinnamon and I install this shell on all OSes. This system is the most stable, as it is updated with a delay after checking for updates on advanced OSes. For example, if on Arch the program is updated immediately, then on Manjaro it takes 15 days, and on Ubuntu you could wait for years for the Nemo update. If I launch Arch in a week, then I have 1000 MB of updates, but Mint only has 200 MB.
Fedora installation offers the LVM file system, but this creates the problem of accessing the disk from Windows, so I don't use this container. After Ubuntu, I was on Fedora for several years. It allows you to install x86/x64 packages without any settings. In all of the above operating systems I used Cinnamon.
When using an MBR for a hard drive, it was always possible to expand an additional partition (without breaking the logical partitions) in order to create another logical drive and insert another Linux into it.
To access Linux disks from Windows I use LinuxReader64.exe.

After installation, first of all, experiment with the drivers, this will save you from the problem when you spend the whole day setting up the OS, and then when you try to use the nVidia driver, the OS suddenly does not load, and the time for setting up has already been wasted. If you experiment with drivers right away, you will lose 1 hour of time installing the OS.
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Good advice thanks
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I would say just go with Debian because it's Debian
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Always used MX Linux as my primary system and for Purebasic development. It is very closely based on Debian Stable and makes no secret of it, but adds some useful tools and slick integration of DE's - I prefer Xfce but others available. Over many different versions Purebasic has installed and run perfectly. I have machines with both X64 and X86. I must say a big thank you to mk-soft for install instructions that work every time with MX.

The priority for MX is stability and ease of use, rather than "bleeding edge". I would imagine it's quite suitable for Linux beginners. if wanted, it also runs remarkably well entirely from a USB stick.

My very first attempt with PB on Linux was under MEPIS which no longer exists but was one of the predecessors of MX (the other is antiX - hence the name MX). To my surprise PB (can't remember version) worked great and quickly enabled conversion of a large Windows source program.

IMHO although the number of Linux distributions can be daunting for new users, the great thing is freedom of choice. There is no right or wrong option! Sometimes I install other distros such as Mint on a multi-boot system for testing.
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