Windows 11 issue

[TerryHough]

I have a program installed on numerous Windows 10 Pro 64bit systems that runs perfectly. It has been around a long time, written in PB Version 5.31 (I know, way out of date but I don't fix what isn't broken).

One of those system was recently updated to Windows 11. Now that program will not save any records into the output files. Any attempt to save (using the F10 hotkey or a menu selection) just sets there as if never activated. No error message is returned... program just sets there. This computer and program worked perfectly under Windows 10.

I would just rollback to Windows 10, but it has been more than the 10 days allowed. That makes it very difficult to return back to a working system.

Has anyone experience anything like this with a system updated to Windows 11? Any advice?

Terry

[TassyJim]

Where is the file being saved to?
It could be a permission problem and W11 has tightened up the locations that have write access.

[Bitblazer]

I have a program installed on numerous Windows 10 Pro 64bit systems that runs perfectly. It has been around a long time, written in PB Version 5.31

Any advice?

Compile the software with the latest 5.73 LTS compiler version and see if the problem still exists.

If the problem still exists and you still can't tell the problem, did you check all API and Purebasic procedure return codes?

[jacdelad]

I don't have problems on Windows 11. Can you break it down to an example that doesn't work on 11 but works on 10? I could test it too.

[TerryHough]

Not resolved, but I believe the problem is with a third party DLL failing. I don't have a Windows 11 machine to test with on hand.

I have updated the code to PB 5.46 without any change in the action.

[Fangbeast]

Terry, can you create a virtual Windows 11 image and test on that? I think MS put out a couple of time delayed images (you get a month, maybe more) to test on. Did it once and it was useful as I use some third party dll's as well.

[Bitblazer]

Not resolved, but I believe the problem is with a third party DLL failing. I don't have a Windows 11 machine to test with on hand.

I have updated the code to PB 5.46 without any change in the action.

i dont have any problems developing or deploying under win11 yet. In fact i prefer win11 now over win10.

1. verify all procedure- / dll- return and error codes. That will likely point you to the problem!
2. post a source sample that shows the problem so we can actually help finding the problem.
3. install a windows 11 image to try your source in a virtual machine (for example virtualbox)

Without more info, we can't help you.

[ChrisR]

Without the need to connect to the VLSC center to download a Windows 11 ISO,
You can download an original ISO, legally, directly from Microsoft servers by using TechBench WZT

Then it is quite easy to use this windows 11 ISO to create a new virtual machine in VitualBox or VMware Workstation Player, I use.
And test, debug your program and also test windows 11.

otherwise, after installing Windows 11, I went back to Windows 10 after 5 days.
Unlike Bitblazer, I didn't see any real bonus for my use, besides the nice new icons.
No performance gain seen and they removed, or made it more difficult to access, many of options I used every day:
Like Explorer Context Menu options, the taskbar has become a dock without drag'n'drop and without context Menu for task manager and others,...
I decided to downgrade after installing MPC-BE. No possibility to associate Video or Audio files easily, it must be done for each extension now in Windows 11. They just make it more complicated if you don't use their products.
Windows 11 does not suit me but this is just my own experience.

[Zebuddi123]

Hi ChrisR. Ive been on Windows 11 for a month. I quite like the look and its a nice change but "yes but" lol its more of a skinning effort and other oddities.
ie: I have
x1 WD black sn850 1tb nvme pcie4.0
x2 1tb Sbarent rocket Q nvme pcie3.0
x2 ssd drives
3tb Toshiba HD
x1 Samsung HD.

All the drives except the nvmes installs the correct drivers where as the nvme`s are classed as SCSI drives, still havnt found a solution and not sure how the nvme`s are handled via task schedulers\Defrag, so thats turned off/disabled I`m in two minds as in going back to windows 10 and staying with Windows 11, trouble is I deleted Windows.old so no rolling back and as I`m banging my head learning Unreal Engine( paste 2 year or so) I`m a bit reluctent to do complete reinstall but im creeping towards win10.

If anyone knows how to solve the SCSI driver issue it would be appriciated as none of the nvme app show the nvme`s in there respective apps


Zebuddi.

[ChrisR]

Hi Zebuddi123,
Damn, I wouldn't want to be in your place
Without windows.old (deleted after 10 days), I believe you have no choice for Windows 10 other than the clean install and reinstall all.
Or wait for a firmware, drivers update, Or ?

Maybe you can install Windows 10 on an other partition for dual booting and be able to progressively transfer.
Good luck