running win apps in linuex? Wine? Does it works well?

[ricardo]

Hi,

Does this really runs as advertised?

http://www.winehq.com/site/wine_features

I know there are pay versions, but what i want to know is how easy is to run any window app on linux?

PB runs there?

[LuCiFeR[SD]]

hehe, my first post here.

Wine is pretty damn good really. With a bit of pissing around it will run pretty much anything you throw at it...BUT it does not like directX stuff to much. now wineX on the otherhand will run any game you like. I mainly Dual boot with mandrake9.1 and winXP... so something that won't run in wine doesn't really bother me as I have the option to run it in windows... I have a couple of other mandrake 9.1 boxes on the network too, but they are pretty low spec junk boxes, but they have their uses . It all depends on what sort of software you are thinking of running. If it is games Forget wine... get wineX. anything else (within reason), wine will do nicely

[ricardo]

Hi,

No, i never download or install a game on my PC.

In the other hand, i want to experiment with linux (i never have a pc running linux before), but the first thing that stop me was that i thing that this will mean say bye bye to win32 apps.

Now that i discover Wine a new possibilties comes in front of me!

Could be a good think that the average Joe knows that he can run lynux BUT with the option to run win32 apps.

If i understand, it will be possible to run both PB (windows and linux) on the same PC at the same time!

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Can you explain me the main benefits for using lynux and not windows?

My first reason is because i hate all the XP addons running all the time on my PC (i have disabled every stuff i detect!) and consuming my memory and my patiente

I don't know why we have more powerfull proccessor if finally we run slower systems and at the end the spedd is almost the same!

The possibilitie to avoid that is the main reason for looking into lynux... and of course, learn.

Thanks in advanced.

[LuCiFeR[SD]]

hehehe, I was laughing at my post from last night. I'd had a few beers, so excuse the lack of usefull information .

Right, first of ricardo I'll try and explain the pros on cons of linux...

Linux is still in my humble opinion a long way behind windows due to a lack of good applications... Web development stuff like Dreamweaver just don't really exist... but with wine you can run it. hell you can even run internet explorer on there if you want to with wine. but, depending on your experience with linux you may or may not get stuff running... as I said in the other post, it takes a lot of pissing around to get an app working in a lot of cases.

The main benefits of linux are really down to speed. it will take the average joe a fair amount of time to get used to configuring Linux via the shell (Like MSDos or AmigaDos), but once you have got it sorted you'll be laughing . one of the hardest things to configure is the Linux kernel... the amount of hours/days/weeks I tore my hair out tweaking the kernel to get it as efficient as possible and stripping out the stuff I would never use was frustrating to put it mildly ... but it is a "Geeks" OS and a lot of the hardcore fans will run it shell only (no GUI front end like Gnome or KDE at all).

(1) For your first venture into Linux I would recomend something like Mandrake 9.1 (avoid 9.2 like the plague... it is a step backwards) or some flavour of Redhat as it is well supported. These 2 are probably the easiest for someone new to learn with.

(2) Don't make the mistake of thinking that linux will replace windows... it has it's shortfalls. Windows for ease of use wins hands down EVERY time.

(3) Linux is excellent if you are a web developer or programmer. they have excellent server sortware. Damn usefull as you can locally test your websites before deploying them elsewhere.

(4) Linux doesn't have the driverbase of windows. so, don't expect you brand new singing and dancing GFX card to work out of the box... but on the whole, the drivers do appear very quicky . Monitor support is another issue. it is easy to destroy a monitor just by configuring X11 wrong


right, that'll do for now... I hope I haven't put you off though. it is worth trying, it is kinda fun like the amiga was and thats why I like linux. it's just something different

I don't know if any other of the linux users of PB are reading this, or perhaps Fred himself. I don't own PB yet, but it is the next thing on my list... Can exe's created with PB run 100% shell only (And i obviously mean as long as no GUI commands are used.). Just curious

[Psychophanta]

Some years have been behind this thread.
So, @LuCiFeR[SD] (or any other): is there some news different to what you explained?
I guess there is interesting the wine project, and there is version 7.0 stable of the WINEHQ just today.

[Nituvious]

Wine has been around for a very long time. Why not try it out yourself? You would probably get an answer to the question quicker.

Personally, I've had no problems with Wine but I have shied away from using it in favor for native applications.

[Psychophanta]

I have tried 3 years ago, and nice.
I posted just in case someone here use it usually and know about its issues and details.

[Baldrick]

Just a FWIW.
I have been using wine with Ubuntu for many years for my CCTV clients ( Synology Surveillance Station) and has always worked quite well. wine 6.0.2 was as close to prefect as I could have ever asked for. But after all these years, they bring out wine 7.0 and it has broken my CCTV clients forcing me to roll back to V6. I guess they will fix, but is very annoying for now and I have had to disable wine updates in my repo's so it doesn't keep trying to go back up to V7.

Also seems not related to Ubuntu either as I first encountered this while setting up a Manjaro distro to experiment with, which because I didnt know about this update not running my client at that stage, I just deleted the whole manjaro thing, thinking it was me not knowing the pacman command set properly.

[Psychophanta]

Thank you very much Baldrick, your info and experience is very welcome and useful.

[chi]

Not wine related, but possible very interesting for some of you... Ubuntu with GPU pass-through Windows VM
LibVF.IO
https://arccompute.com/blog/libvfio-com ... tiplexing/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pVrTyL ... b8&index=1