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I wrote a few programs for the Ti-99/4 when I was the training officer at the IOIC Training Facility in Boca Racon in 1980. It wasn't bad, but only did floating point math. That wasn't what I wanted, but I made do. It was real inconvenient to have every add-on jut out off the right side in a stiff, extended .line. All joined together by stiff, short, inflexible cable runs. That really made it awkward. It was the Commanding Officer's toy, but he offered to loan it to the training center if it could help. He had it mounted on a plywood sheet tor the support of one attachment. Don't remember what that was. I learned that it could be programmed in machine language, but there was nothing available in terms of documentation on the guts of the machine or the processor used.

Your saying it was a 16-bit processor is news ro me, I guess that would put it at about the level of 6809, which I believe is what they had in the Commodore Amiga. But that could be misinformation.

The company that really blew it back then was Commodore. I think they could have captured the PC market if they had gone after it. But they didn't. The Amiga was ahead of its time. and it had (has?) a loyal following long after Commodore slipped away. Never got a chance to see or try one, but I sure heard about how great they were. .

I thought of the Motorola 6809 as the next step up from the 6502, which is what they used in the PET 2000 and C-64. The switched processors in C-128. or actually had two, so that it could emulate the C-64. Tje other processor was the Z80. I actually studied the Z80 a bit when I got a few Sinclair Z80s for next to nothing as they were going off the market.

Ah, memories. I wonder where those Sinclairs got to? Likely my wife threw them out during one of our moves. I won't worry about it, She wouldn't remember if she did or not.
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oldefoxx wrote:Your saying it was a 16-bit processor is news ro me, I guess that would put it at about the level of 6809, which I believe is what they had in the Commodore Amiga. But that could be misinformation.
Yes; it was Texas Instruments' very own 16-bit TMS9900 CPU. The very same processor used in one of their minicomputer lines. F1 driver in a go-kart. They really dropped the ball on that.

Motorola's 6809 wasn't a true 16bit processor, and I don't believe that it was ever used in the Amiga series; one of their PETs perhaps. Amigas were built on the 68000 series of processors, and I'd even heard that there were models with the PowerPC under the hood.
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Interesting tibits from the past. It was a simpler world then. You have to miss that. I do.

Life today is a lot more perilous than people realize. Now countries, economies, cultures, and both social and religious extremists are fighting each other and the rest of the world for dominion and control. It's so bad that even the average person is looking for some sort of haven or way out.

Which might explain some of the popularity of video and online games, and the lure of virtual worlds, where your foes are imaginary and you can use a credit card by buy more whatever so
that you can climb faster and higher in the ranks.

Or, in some cases, be lured into seeing programming as a way of helping break up what is otherwise a pretty bleak landscape.

I can't devote my time to programming like I've done in the past. There are just too many other things pressing in on my consciousness. I once read that if you layered a person in soft cotton, sealed off their hearing, and put them to float in water at a comfortable temperature in a dark tank, that all sense of time and awareness would leave them and their minds would effectively shut down. We need input to our five senses for out minds to be goaded into responses. Without that input, we are not part of the world around us.

I think we are getting goaded too hard these days. So much input about matters that we have no control over. It wears on you, and at some point you just have to shut it off or find some way to escape it all. The tv stays off, except for the time when my wife joins me in the evenings and we sit here together for awhile, she watching her shows and me on my laptop. I might watch a spate of news afterwards, but most of its repeat stuff, so I shut it off.

It's increasingly becoming a stranger, more strained world, and you hope it keeps its distance. But you know that eventually, you will be drawn into it.

Sounds like I'm ready to end it all, right? Not really. If I die soon, I will count myself lucky to be free of what's going on. But my faith in God does not allow me to seek to go early, and I just abide by His decisions in these matters. I feel I am expected to work to influence and change things if I can, but I don't count on success. God does not rule this world, he left it man's hands, and we are consistently showing what poor stewards we are with it.

I keep reminding myself that this is a world audience, and I also remind myself that many others do not believe in God as I do. But a person's faith is not suppose to be a private matter. You are entitled to know what I believe in, and my God wants me to make it known that I do trust in Him.

People around the world are dying because of what they believe, particularly other Christians, and they don't renounce God to save themselves. I have to profess my faith in Him. It's just something I have to do. Failure to do so, would be in effect, a kind of renouncement of that faith. It happens, people do it, and they continue to live and secretly worship God. That's their way, not mine. To avoid the temptation to ever do the hidden faith thing, I make it a point to come out openly up front so that I cannot deny what I've professed at a later time. I guess it is rather like a hypochondriac entering the field of medicine, or a person with abnormal cardinal desires seeking to enter the priesthood. You fight it as best you can.

I can see a time coming when the government cuts people of faith off from the rest of society. You cannot get substance, you get no money, your resources are taken away from you. Look at history, and you find similar cases. What them? That's a tough one to answer. I've got no real answers for myself or anyone else. The deceptive part is, like in Germany before the start of WWII, the inroads may be gradual at first, but build up over time. You keep giving in to them, and then it goes too far, but you can't get them undone.

The way I read the Holy Bible, the tipping point is when the government decides to brand people with an identifier. This could be chip implant rather than a number on the forehead or something. It that happens, if you accept the branding, then woe unto you. I don't read the Bible much, so I can't put it down to either book or passage, but something like that sticks with you. What I retain is: Under no circumstance accept the branding! Now how you resist I am not sure.
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oldefoxx:
Do you have the feeling WWIII is coming? The feeling it's possible, or the feeling chances get higher,
looking at all the crisis, wars, terrorists (beheadings by ISIS, Boko Haram, etc.), flow of refugees (over 60 millions all over the world)?
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oldefoxx wrote:The deceptive part is, like in Germany before the start of WWII, the inroads may be gradual at first, but build up over time. You keep giving in to them, and then it goes too far, but you can't get them undone.
Something to think about.

- In 2000, Saddam Hussein announced Iraqi oil would be traded in EUROS
- In 2001, 9/11 conveniently created an outrage that justified the ensuing invasions
- Civil rights killed when Dept of Homeland Security (aka GESTAPO) was born
- Freedom fries were born when France justifiably refused to join the alliance
- No weapons of mass destruction (WMD) were ever found in Iraq
- Saddam Hussein was found, tried, and executed in Iraq
- Osama bin Laden was found (in Pakistan!), killed, and buried at sea
- Establishment oil organisations flourish in the invaded territories
- After the official pullout, more than a thousand troops still remain
- In 2010, Muammar Gaddafi initiated a new bullion-backed currency
- In 2011, Libya was invaded, and Muammar Gaddafi was killed
- No bullion-backed currency was ever floated, and oil still traded in USD
- Establishment wants more, and ISIS was conveniently born (in 1999?)
- Military experts baffled at how professional and organised ISIS is
- ISIS troop movements and strategies resemble western training
- ISIS can do what no other establishment could justifiably do
- Almost every arbitrary act of terrorism is now accredited to ISIS
- Phase 2 is officially underway...

Is it too far yet?
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Answer to first question is, what makes you think we aren't already at war? Since the advent of Socialism, the world has been constantly been kept in a state of turmoil. Just because a wall in Berlin went down and the USSR collapsed under the combined weight of unsustainable debt and incompetence from within the ruling party? They just don't give up. You mean nuclear war I suppose. Why bother if they can keep undermining from within? America's going down, and this will not be just for the long count, and will likely happen within the year. It would take an act of God Almighty to stop it, and once America turned its back to Him, that flagged the end was near.

You know, whatever they choose to call themselves, there are really three types of socialists, I said this elsewhere, and it is so true that I will repeat it here:

(1) Extreme socialists that do whatever it takes to undermine what's in place and replace it with a system of socialism, and tyranny results as the most treacherous of its leaders fights his way to the top spot. You think Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Hussein, and others just got there by chance or good fortune? If you think that, you don't know history. History is suppose to be built on facts, so make sure your source is a good one, because its been said "History is written by the victor". But re-written history is written by the insidious invader from within. America has had its history rewritten in the schoolbooks over the past decades.

(2) Those that support and cheer each new gain of socialism, who believe in its lies and false promises. Europe and the USSR all had long bouts with the most virulent and persuasive form of socialism, so they are smart enough to keep the head of socialism down now. They don't let it take over again. But time marches on, people forget, and it will be back. That is the nature of the serpent. Guile, treachery, and temptation. Read the story of the Garden of Eden and see the serpent there bait Eve into disobedience to God. This new serpent doesn't just promise an apple (or whatever fruit it really was), but free government money in exchange for their votes. And a tolerance as the socialist continue to gain dominancy by trampling on the rights of others.

(3) The many caught up by socialism-on-the-move who are simply blind to what is happening around them. I've seen pictures of life on farms where huge swarms or rats invade silos of grain to feed, and farmers stood by helpless to stop it. Most people would be part of that swarm, just going along with the flow of things. Taken all together like that, they are more than a match for the farmer. A similar story in Australia where rabbits were introduced for a bit of sport in hunting them. With no natural predators, they bred like mad and overran the nation. I don't know the full story, but rabbits in those numbers don't seem to be a problem anymore.

Now we know that rats and rabbits (or wild hares) are not going to join forces with the farmer under any set of circumstances. The farmers won't have it, for one thing. And here we can see how the rich and powerful are much like the farmer when dealing with the rest of the population.

And the socialist can use this as yet another way to stir up the population, to use it as a tool by effectively saying "Bring down the rich!", and "Take their money and redistribute the wealth!"

You know what they say: "Hey, if it works it works". The socialists just add to this: "if it works for us, just do it". No morality or ethics involved at all. Take over churches with socialists disquised as men of the cloth. Take over schools and school boards with more socialists, but these more open about it, because they are going to change your child's mind through their own form of education, and they want to make socialism appear respected. Take over the judicial system, which is the only branch of government with no safeguards or system of checks and balances in it (beyond the Appeals process, which just goes to other members of the judicial system) . Form ther the Socialists began to rewrite existing laws and effectively write new laws by court decisions.

Now they've taken over the Executive Branch with an extreme socialist elected as President, and he controls the military. He's been reaffirmed to have the right to declare Martial Law, and there are no checks and balances against the power of the Commander in Chief. He's not going to vacate office, he will remain by force, he will suspend the Constitution and he already has a socialistic structure in place in the form of the extended federal government agencies, and this Republic will fall. So a year maximum before this happens, to take place before we can choose a new leader from our ranks, one that might organize an opposition to his plans. Obama admires, even idolizes Abraham Lincoln because Lincoln revealed that Martial Law is the means to seize control of a nation. Lincoln is the only one to ever use it, and he used it to put down rebellions in the North and to crush a rebellious South. The difference is, Lincoln merely suspended the Constitution. Obama will do away with it. Lincoln used it to retain a Republic, with no intention of keeping power. Obama will use it to tear down the same Republic and stay in power.

Many people believe Obama is not a Christian. They are right. Some believe he is a Muslim instead. These people are wrong. He's an extreme socialist, and that is what he has always been. He doesn't have hide it. Half of America thinks socialism is a good thing. The other half don't care, don't know, or just let things happen.

War is in America's future. The war of extermination and survival against denomination and control. But I see maybe a half century of socialism at the helm first, until we breed a new generation or two of fighters who will go all out to win back their freedoms. Technology will likely prevent this from happening in an organized way, it will take spontaneity, a spark and a flare-up, to cause it to happen at all. It worked to bring the USSR down. If failed in China in Tiananmen Square. The Russians had the Chernobyl disaster to motivate them. China brought in a illiterate army from the sticks to beat submission into the city dwellers and get back control.

The Holy Bible's prophecies are not on America's side. This part of the world, much less the USA, does not appear in the Word of God. We are gone and done with before the final days come.

WWIII does not have to happen, because we are all caught up in the eternal war, of Good against Evil, and Evil wins out, which was recognized in the holy book. But that's about this world, not the next. Now there will be a 1,000 year reign by Christ here on this earth, and that could begin at any time, but when is the question. How does that fit into the rest? God does not reveal all through his prophets, only enough to let us know that He is real when a prophecy comes to pass.
That way you either have to accept Him on faith, reaffirmed by fulfilled prophecy, or reject Him if you believe in what the Evil side tells you instead. Does that make science evil? No, it's a tool used as part of the effort to confuse us, to lead us astray. It's like saying a gun is evil when it is the person behind the gun that you need to be most concerned about.

Very Christian of me, and you won't accept my say-so, my opinion, view, or faith in these matters, so you immediately discount all that I say. Hey, that is who you are, and what you have come to be as a person, with all the influences that have been a part in shaping you to be as you are. Ever question your foundation? Ever check for dents, signs of rust, evidence of leaks, or kicked the tires? Cars aren't built to last forever, and neither are you. Or me. Or anyone. So what comes next? Nothingness? Is that what you want to believe? What you choose to believe is what really defines you, and I choose to believe in what is good, pure, love, and hope. God is also known as Lord, if you want to stick with four letters. Truth is five letters, but He is about that as well.

So I call it the way I see it, and it is not good, and not getting better. I would expect that, as this is what the good book teaches us. We are already in the war of the future, and you see evidence of this all around you. Every day. The difference between ISIS and Socialism is in how quickly they resort to violence as a tactic, and the degree they go in eliminating others. ISIS wants to wipe others out completely. Socialism wants to dominate others totally. You can die under one or be a slave under the other. How's that for choice?

I think I answered the "yet" question as well. I mean it's all there, you just have to find it for yourself. I cover it pretty well on my Facebook page, but I cover it even more thoroughly at my website at https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code ... F3M07EOHMX

Opinion is when you can't support your arguments with facts. I use history as a starting point, and follow what others have learned and said concerning those findings. That's then just their opinion. But they do the same and say so, and that leads you to more facts and opinions. These represent pieces, and when the pieces begin to fit together, then you know you are on the way to discovering the truth. You also find others that ignore, hide, or dispute the facts as a means of reputiating what others say. When that doesn't work, they mob you with insults and flames, so you end up wasting time trying to put them back in their place. It's like howling dogs at night, and you can't shout them down or drown them out.

A big lie is that the Holocaust never happened. I wasn't there and never saw it directly and I was only a child, but I saw the photos and I heard my parents, and many did see it for themselves. So I know it happened. It really happened. And it shames us all. And we don't like that. So now people would rather believe the opposite, so they listen to those that claim they can prove that the story of the Holocaust is the real lie here. This staggers my mind, but it is actually happening. That's the kind of world we live in. That's how craven we are if you go to our depths. People consistently fail to think for themselves or seek out the facts on their own, and this is what you end up with: A world mired in distortions, fabrications, misconceptions, and all these can be traced back to a root know as the Lie. The world is about Lies, and lies are a main part of Evil's arsenal.

Do you teach your kids nice things, like Christmas, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny? Those are essentially lies wrapped up nicely in bows. Christmas is about Christ and what he did and is going for us. Instead we teach then about Santa Claus, elves, a flying sled, and a magical night where gifts are bestowed on good children. That is their reward, that we should lie to them? So they learn differently as they get older, but the pattern is set. They will do the same to their own children.

More lies: Bambi, Pinochio, Peter Rabbit, Donald Duck, cartoons, super powers and super beings, and the list never stops. Movies, tv shows, novels, where nobody really dies, and the people portrayed are mostly fictional, and all played by actors following a script. Tell me, how much truth is being taught now? They can't tell what is true and what isn't. My stepson believed that UFOs had to be real because it was on tv. So television defines the truth now? That is unreal. But my great aunt believed that negroes were akin to apes, not man, because that is what she read in the yellow press. The yellow press were just cheaply printed papers that yellowed quickly because it was the cheapest paper possible at the time, but it was IN PRINT, so it must be the truth. Her husband could not stand the person she had become, so stayed in his den behind a closed door except for meal times.

My wife knows, but doesn't want to know, what's happening. She get emails and looks at them briefly, but she won't talk politics and leaves as soon as anything is said along that line. To her it is just church, family, friends, and making ends meet. I love beyond reason, and I will never leave her by choice, but it does disturb me that I can't talk to her about what concerns me most. My wife isn't dumb. She makes good decisions and choices. But blinding yourself to reality is not going to help in the terrible times to come. It's called Facing Facts. I'm not the first to recognize its importance. I'm a late comer myself, in that I ignore politics until 2008, when my eyes were abruptly opened by two people who are diametrically opposed to each other. One was Obama, a man who promised too much, and was not properly screened or tested in politics. The other was Glenn Beck of FoxNews. Watching and listening to Glenn Beck taught me a lot real fast, and he had the facts in hand. He was instrumental in the creation of the Tea Party Movement, but it was not what he was going for. The Tea Party is a splinter party, loud but not that effective. Glenn wanted the Conservative to unite together and become one loud and powerful force to make real change, not to just yammer away when they didn't like something.

Now the American public is about to screw over itself by picking another unfit man to become president. He's loud, he's getting the attention, but he actually has nothing to offer. He's made money, lots of it, by gambling other people's money on risky ventures, where he got paid no matter what. If the venture succeeds, he makes lots of money, If it goes under, he keeps what he's already got because he's protected under our bankruptcy laws, while everybody else loses theirs. If that is a formula for success, America doesn't need it. Or him. He's even bartering how
he gets paid now, asking to be paid in gold coin rather than paper money. He know the American currency is about to tank. He's said so. But that does not make him smart enough to be President. No, I believe that Donald Trump, who is by record a Democratic supporter, entered the race to give the Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, a better chance at winning by dividing the Republican vote further. That he's ahead must make him feel pretty good. What would he do if he actually won the nomination? I have no earthy idea. He's that much of an uncertainty.
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Thanks Sigfried!

> The Holy Bible's prophecies are not on America's side.

The people who wrote/assembled the Bible didn't know about the american continent and thought the world is flat. ;)
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and thought the world is flat.
Im trying to think back to what it was like back then when they thought the world was flat... obviously at that point in time the world cant be round because humans would fall off the sides and bottom and an apple hadn't yet entertained Newton, but it's strange to think of a flat disc-like world floating in space (did they also think the moon was a flat disc?), because what would the edges look like... just a cliff and space?
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anyway I can't think about it without thinking of The Truman Show :)
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But when I did a quick google i found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_fl ... _societies
oh my gosh :(

But then, we live in a world of star chart astrologers, "Scientologists", and ghost hunters, i shouldnt be so surprised
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Danilo wrote:The people who wrote/assembled the Bible didn't know about the american continent and thought the world is flat. ;)
Any proof to back up that statement ? :wink:
oldefoxx wrote:Extreme socialists that do whatever it takes to undermine what's in place and replace it with a system of socialism
Are capitalists any better ?

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oldefoxx wrote:Your saying it was a 16-bit processor is news ro me, I guess that would put it at about the level of 6809, which I believe is what they had in the Commodore Amiga. But that could be misinformation.
A Motorola 68000 was the CPU used by Jay Miner's Amiga.
oldefoxx wrote:Many people believe Obama is not a Christian. They are right. Some believe he is a Muslim instead. These people are wrong. He's an extreme socialist, and that is what he has always been. He doesn't have hide it. Half of America thinks socialism is a good thing. The other half don't care, don't know, or just let things happen.
Christian and Muslim are religious beliefs. Socialism is an economic philosophy. They can co-exist.

oldefoxx, I believe your post to mostly be about politics.
If so, then I firmly believe that Barry "President Obama" Soetoro can be best described politically as a Communist who supports Socialism, and who worships Satan.
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and thought the world is flat.
Im trying to think back to what it was like back then when they thought the world was flat... obviously at that point in time the world cant be round because humans would fall off the sides and bottom and an apple hadn't yet entertained Newton, but it's strange to think of a flat disc-like world floating in space (did they also think the moon was a flat disc?), because what would the edges look like... just a cliff and space?
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Your illustration actually shows the Earth to be round. (I believe you meant spherical.)
The edge of their world would essentially have to have been the lip of a bowl that held the oceans, otherwise the oceans would have been emptied.
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heartbone wrote:Your illustration actually shows the Earth to be round. (I believe you meant spherical.)
that's why i said disc-like, not spherical, but whatever :D
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Keya wrote:
heartbone wrote:Your illustration actually shows the Earth to be round. (I believe you meant spherical.)
that's why i said disc-like, not spherical, but whatever :D
There has been recent noise on the net which discusses the idea that the Earth is in fact quite flat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFjG4jpUhQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcRitlK_zGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyd_9ovplXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dumCW71SBgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaUBrui9L1I

I believe the earth is spherical (I've seen the curvature from 33,000 feet), but NASA did lie, and the Apollo moon landings are a hoax.
Check out this physical science based proof of the fraud.
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heartbone wrote:[Many people believe Obama is not a Christian. They are right. Some believe he is a Muslim instead. These people are wrong. He's an extreme socialist, and that is what he has always been. He doesn't have hide it. Half of America thinks socialism is a good thing. The other half don't care, don't know, or just let things happen.
Christian and Muslim are religious beliefs. Socialism is an economic philosophy. They can co-exist.
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Socialism is a belief system, no different than a religion, not when it boils down to one set of people intending to and attempting to overcome another. That's what Socialists do. That's what they've always done. That is who they are. You judge by what they do, not what they say. Talk is cheap, and when what you hear are lies, which can be in the form of fabrications, distortions, exaggerations, propaganda, falsehoods, the masking and concealment of facts, the invention of new "facts", and on and on, where all these words merely rebrand lies as something other than lies. then it's time to ignore the words and look at the plain facts, which is the kindred word of Truth. Another kindred term is Proof Positive, where you begin with the facts and work to find the truth behind them. Most people don't bother. They just believe what they heard first, no matter how improbable the source.

A woman from the church comes in occasionally to help my wife, and shes's asked me several times: "Are you the one that told me Ben Carson is a bigot?". Then she says she doesn't believe it. She's incapable of dealing with an untrusted source (which she can't even remember) or settling in her mind something she knows is not true. A few more people tell her the same thing, then she will believe it. Lies dominate by constant repetition. Hitler showed that the bigger the lie, the more easily people would come to accept it as fact. That's because it would be on everyone's lips. Repetition sells, because most people believe that the truth will win out. What do they base that on? There is no evidence to support that. Quite the contrary in fact. People who hear something new will tell others right away, so it gets around, and after a time it is accepted as fact, when it may not be.

Hitler even contrived to provide false facts and film them to serve as "proof positive" of what the German people came to believe about the Arian race that they supposedly came from. Germany was "invaded" at one point by soldiers of a nearby country which Hitler then invaded for real, It was determine later that the "enemy soldiers" were in fact captive young Jewish men that were fattened up for awhile, put into mock uniforms, and forced to charge with empty guns in hand, who were ruthlessly machined gunned down and filmed as they died. It was shown in theaters as a news clip.

You haven't bothered to look for the facts, have you? No, you just accept the lies because that's what you've been taught, and it all sounded so reasonable that it must be true, right? You go over it in your head, and it still seems right. Well, here are a few real facts for you, Take them into account as well:

The National Socialist German Workers' Party, better know as the Nazi party, took over Germany, invaded other nations causing WWII, and is believed to have caused an estimate of 20,946,000 Non-Battle Deaths. Notice the word Socialist in the name. Here is the link: http://www.scottmanning.com/content/nazi-body-count/

Communism is believed to have caused an estimated 149,469,610 deaths overall. Five communist countries killed off over half of the people in that country. It's own people, just because they did not agree with or accept Communism, Now you are going to say that Communism isn't Socialism, and point to the fact that they don't sport Socialist in their name, so they weren't real socialist. But I'm not the first to ask: "But what is in a name?" Here is what the Communist believe, and how is this different from Socialism?

"com·mu·nism
ˈkämyəˌnizəm/
noun
a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs."

It's time to get real, man. This was described as a "political theory", and to you, Socialism is a "economic philosophy". Those are just labels. It's what happens that counts. And socialism, in every form. seeks to undermine and eliminate what is already there and take over. That's not something you can just live alongside of. No more than believing that Iran won't continue on the course it's set for itself to build nuclear weapons, destroy Israel, and attempt to wipe out the United States. But Obama is an Extreme Socialist. He believes what he wants to believe and ignores the facts, so he is pushing to get the agreement signed by exerting party pressure on the Democratic members of Congress. Looks like he's made it happen, because enough want their party's support for their next run for office that they will block attempts to stop the agreement from happening.

Socialist are forcing Christians to accept the Muslims, but the Muslim believe that it is their destiny to wipe out non Islamic believers, especially the Christians. When they have the power in hand to try, they will act accordingly. And Socialists are stupid and dumb enough to think it won't happen, because it does not fit in their "philosophy".

Socialists are the real "stupid"s and "dumb"s that occupy Congress, in the form of Democrats, Liberals, Progressives, and Independents. Do I think Republicans are smarter? Not really, they don't act like it, and they are trying to get along with everybody so they won't say it or name it for what it is: The insidious invader and corrupter from within. Or they don't see it for what it is, which even more likely. That would make them dumb, stupid, an ignorant to boot.

But who am I to talk? It took the nomination and election of Obama to get my attention, and late night talks given by Glenn Beck to really open my eyes. That started in 2008, while I was recovering from a minor brain injury involving a bit of brain bleeding. Before then I had just ignored politics as something for other people to worry about and deal with. But politics goes to the core of what happens, to whom, why, and how do we deal with it, something I had never understood before. I had thought it was just this dirty little insider game that some people used to get wealthy and rise to the top. I wasn't wrong, but I did not see the real story underneath.

When you really look, the facts become evident. I'm trained to use my mind, to evaluate, and to reject what is unverifiable, and work to a conclusion. That's what I did. Can you do the same? Don't take my word for all this. Learn for yourself. Become a goat rather than stay a sheep. Or be a ram, ready to bump heads for reasons you finally can justify to yourself. But you won't. Your kind never do. And what is your kind? To be part of the flock. To take another's word. To never really question what you are part of.

The counterattack from the Socialists' side will be"How pure is Capitalism?" I'm not here to attack or defend capitalism, but that does at least leave us with individual choices, of each trying to live life on his own terms. You don't like being poor on the bottom? Do something about it. Learn, work hard, improve yourself. Go as high as you can under your own steams and on your own merits. When others seek to drive you down and stand on your back to benefit themselves, don't let them. Make them work their way up just like you have had to.

Do yourself a favor: Use google or bing and search on two words: Flaws and Socialism. Read what is really wrong with your "philosophy" and find ways to discount these limitations on your own. If you can't dispute or disprove what you read, you may actually make progress towards a bit of truth about yourself and what you've elected to believe in. What you've been taught to believe in. Now if you are a typical Socialist, you won't do this. You would rather keep believing what you've been taught, because you are more comfortable that way.

How long would it take to find out, one way or the other? What would it cost you to just do it? And if you do this much, why not go further and search on more things about socialism that you don't know as certainties?

Ask yourself a few questions, like these for example:

(1) Was socialism really good for the societies where it got the upper hand?

(2) Did Socialism promote social reform to actually help others, or to gain votes so that it got control?

(3) How does Socialism pay for itself? Money for welfare isn't free, and once you've taken the wealth of others, what then? Just more national debt until the economy snaps?

(4) Who really benefits from Socialism? I mean, besides the people with government jobs or drawing support from the government, who don't give back, being takers only.

(5) A great socialist, but a poor planner. Isn't that the risk you run when the party rules and takes over? That mistakes will happen, because of poor planning and judgement? Are there cases of this ever happening? (Yes, many).

(6) What recourse do you have if the party leaders and program managers screw up? In a democracy, you have the right to protest, to petition, to impeach, and you have the right to assemble and vote. Where are those choices a part of the philosophy of socialism? Oh, there's no need for them. It's the perfect society, right?

(7) Joe Blow down the street is on disability and gets government money. He could work, but doesn't have to, because he's also on foodstamps and the rest. Shouldn't he be made to work and pay his fair share?

(8) Paul Smith got a promotion and now makes more money, but he went up a bracket in his income taxes, so now he has less take home money than he had before. Is this right? Should he have turned down the promotion?

(9) Gerald Peters has seniority in the Union so he isn't going to be laid off, even though it is not that important a job. Bill Ryan has an important job on a company contract, but lacks seniority in the Union, so he will be laid off before Gerald is. Makes sense, doesn't it?

(10) For many long years, the unions fought the railroads and airlines to keep people employed on trains and airplanes when the jobs they once did became automated and were eliminated. How's that for keeping up with the times?

(11) Stalin's farming collectives, were farmers were starved to death because all the food was collected to feed factory workers. Patt of one of his Five Year plans. That's leadership for you?

(12) The flatcar to carry grain fiasco in Russia. The grain had to be shipped to the factories, but the train sent for it only had flatcars. They piled on the grain, but it got blown away in the wind. Wasn't this clever?

(13) The Chernobyl disaster. If you hadn't learned about it, you ought to. The bigwig at the plant had party connections. That's what counted, not his abilities (or lack thereof). But party connections are all important, right?

(14) The sinking of submarines and deaths of sailors. It happens, but America and other nations will go all out to try and save the crews. Thr USSR consistenly refused help until too late. So this is about the people?

(15) Communism is not Socialism. Really? It's the same goal, the same intent. just that the world has had to deal with Communism a whole lot more directly. Lenin said that "the goal of socialism is communism". William Cooper puts it this way: "The Ultimate Goal Of Socialism Is Communism". He also adds: "This plan outlines the formation of a one world socialist totalitarian". Does rhat sound like someone that wants to get along with you?

Socialism speaks for itself: "Socialism is a political movement that centers on changing the economic means of ownership and production. Its main objective is to foster a cooperative economy through the creation of cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership or shared equity ". Foster means they are working to make it happen. Cooerative means that others do it their way, not the reverse (in practice anyway). Cooperative enterprises translates to "worm their way in and make changes to further their cause". "common ownership, state ownership, or shared equity" puts socialism right in line with the goals of Communism.

Notice it is a "political movement", not the bland "economic philosophy" that it was stated to be. Political movement can be understood to be an effort to bring about change in human affairs. And that is what they are doing. By any means possible.
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oldefoxx wrote:When you really look, the facts become evident. I'm trained to use my mind, to evaluate, and to reject what is unverifiable, and work to a conclusion. That's what I did. Can you do the same? Don't take my word for it. Learn for yourself. Become a goat rather than stay a sheep. Or be a ram, ready to bump heads for reasons you finally can justify to yourself.
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