more than science fiction

[applePi]

in a recent physics experiment documented in nature magazine and summarized by new scientist http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... -film.html
this is my understanding of this experiment:
two set of photons which are emanating from the same quantum event so they are correlated or entangled, (how they entangled ?? no one knows at all, it is a mystery) now the yellow photons fired to a cat stencil, while the red photons fired to a camera, the result of the test is that red photons formed the image of the cat even only the yellow photons are fired to the cat stencil, and the camera can see only the red photons.
look at this: suppose the yellow photons fired the cat stencil located at the left edge of the whole universe, while the red photons are fired to the camera located at the right edge of the whole universe separated by billions of light years, the theory and the proved practice said that the camera will see the cat instantly at the same moment the yellow photons hits the cat stencil. instantly means absolute and not the same meaning as it is in the relativity theory. but look the photons speed are limited 300000 km/s but the informations traveled instantly using the entanglement idea.
Einstein himself was not happy with this phenomena and he stay skeptic about it until it is proved theoretically in 1964 and experimentally near the end of the last century, and now the time the scientists begins to play with it , and there are big surprises in the future, the worst if this bizarre phenomena exploited in military weapons. and there are hundreds of books and articles about this bizarre feature of quantum physics, as an example "Entanglement: The Greatest Mystery in Physics"
https://archive.org/details/Entanglemen ... yInPhysics
for a djvu or pdf version
all the universe was one point and now it is still a point in some sense even it appears very big, and this 'some sense' is the entanglement phenomena.

[Joakim Christiansen]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... n-science/

After the red light passed by the objects, the physicists ran it together with the yellow laser beam at both parallel and right angles.

The red light was then discarded, and the yellow light headed for a camera. There, that yellow light revealed a picture of the object. And a negative of the picture emerged from the light that had interfered at a right angle.

They did allow the light to interact with each others after one of them hitting the object. It would be cool if it could work without them doing that, but for now I am not impressed.

[djes]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... n-science/

After the red light passed by the objects, the physicists ran it together with the yellow laser beam at both parallel and right angles.

The red light was then discarded, and the yellow light headed for a camera. There, that yellow light revealed a picture of the object. And a negative of the picture emerged from the light that had interfered at a right angle.

They did allow the light to interact with each others after one of them hitting the object. It would be cool if it could work without them doing that, but for now I am not impressed.

You're so right ! The "new scientist" article is so (voluntarily) biased, it's a shame.

[VB6_to_PBx]

Negative Image :

[Bananenfreak]

A cat! That's science

[Lord]

A cat! That's science

Schrödinger's cat?

[heartbone]

I apologise if anyone thinks this is off topic.

strange nights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzSPU1gAEiY [2:13]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJE4yBIn5ws [0:28]

There were no thunderstorms reported in the area at the time, it must be swamp gas and/or weather balloons.

[Joakim Christiansen]

I apologise if anyone thinks this is off topic.

strange nights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzSPU1gAEiY [2:13]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJE4yBIn5ws [0:28]

There were no thunderstorms reported in the area at the time, it must be swamp gas and/or weather balloons.

The first one shows a boat and the second one shows a lightning storm. I also believe that we are visited by aliens, but these videos are uploaded by kids who don't know any better than mistaking EVERYTHING for something paranormal.

[heartbone]

I was thinking the UFO was CGI when I posted it yesterday, but I'm not sure.

However it is very unlikely to be a boat.
1) I have not seen any webcam at Daiichi located at the elevation necessary to look down at the angle needed to make a boat on water appear above the plant.
2) I doubt if there are any suicidal boat crews.
3) The topmost bright light object on the 'boat' casts zero reflection.
Yes that is a lightning storm for sure, but not the normal electrical kind.

[c4s]

@heartbone
Just a guess but did you consider that it might simply be a fake (e.g. old video material, manipulated, from another context etc.) to heat up the conspiracy theories?

[heartbone]

@heartbone
Just a guess but did you consider that it might simply be a fake (e.g. old video material, manipulated, from another context etc.) to heat up the conspiracy theories?

Of course.

Now here is a straightforward question back at you c4s.

Nikola has two laser pointers, one red and one green.
They are aimed in exactly opposite directions, and both are pointing into space.
At 3:00:00.0 AM Nikola turns on both lasers.
One second later, at 3:00:01.0 AM, how far away is the beginning of the green beam's wavefront from the beginning of the red beam's wavefront?

[c4s]

Now here is a straightforward question back at you c4s.

Nikola has two laser pointers, one red and one green.
They are aimed in exactly opposite directions, and both are pointing into space.
At 3:00:00.0 AM Nikola turns on both lasers.
One second later, at 3:00:01.0 AM, how far away is the beginning of the green beam's wavefront from the beginning of the red beam's wavefront?

How is that related to what I've written?
Anyway, I'll accept your "good old school teacher" attitude and try to answer that question. Hopefully I didn't miss any tricky part, but provided that he's pointing them in parallel to the earth's surface and other physical influences are negligible, I'd say roughly two times the speed of light per second so ~600,000 km.

[heartbone]

Now here is a straightforward question back at you c4s.

Nikola has two laser pointers, one red and one green.
They are aimed in exactly opposite directions, and both are pointing into space.
At 3:00:00.0 AM Nikola turns on both lasers.
One second later, at 3:00:01.0 AM, how far away is the beginning of the green beam's wavefront from the beginning of the red beam's wavefront?

How is that related to what I've written?

It isn't.
But it fits into the thread's

all the universe was one point and now it is still a point in some sense even it appears very big, and this 'some sense' is the entanglement phenomena.

theme rather nicely.

Anyway, I'll accept your "good old school teacher" attitude and try to answer that question. Hopefully I didn't miss any tricky part, but provided that he's pointing them in parallel to the earth's surface and other physical influences are negligible, I'd say roughly two times the speed of light per second so ~600,000 km.

I appreciate your positive attitude.

Yes indeed, that is the correct answer.
Hopefully we have dispelled that crazy notion that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.
I needed verification of that concept before I continued with the portrayal of another sense of the "entanglement phenomena".

Can we get a second?

[Jagermeister]

A laser is a ray from which, at each ray's source, they are moving outward at the speed of light.

Another way of putting it is; Freak and Fred are back-to-back and sprint away from each other at the same rate. Their distance from each other (source) is calculated as 2x the distance each individual has moved from the center. However, as individuals they've only moved half of that total distance between them, or 1x their own rate.

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Nothing with a source can move faster than the speed of light (until proven otherwise...(neutrinos, i think, were the last detectable particles hypothesized to do this)).

For the binary universe to exist, there has to be a connection between each particle's polarity to affect one at the 'other end' instantaneously - no traveling or movement required. If there were no connection, the eventual flip would rely on a chain reaction which takes time to traverse the expanse of the universe, making that process a ray The only way around that (so far) would be the laser beam not having to travel from a source, but coming into existence across the entire universe suddenly.

[heartbone]

A laser is a ray from which, at each ray's source, they are moving outward at the speed of light.

Another way of putting it is; Freak and Fred are back-to-back and sprint away from each other at the same rate. Their distance from each other (source) is calculated as 2x the distance each individual has moved from the center. However, as individuals they've only moved half of that total distance between them, or 1x their own rate.

True.
Now I don't quite comprehend your insertion of the "(source)" in "heir distance from each other (source) is calculated as", but I get your drift.

Nothing with a source can move faster than the speed of light (until proven otherwise...(neutrinos, i think, were the last detectable particles hypothesized to do this)).

You lost me there because velocity is a relative measure.
If the source were to start moving directly away from the beam's wavefront, then the velocity between the two things would be c+the source's speed.
If you can't agree with that, sorry because that is the basis of the logic that I intend to extrapolate.

It might be hard to overcome a lifetime of misconception, but sure light can move (possess a relative velocity) away from other light travelling in the opposite drection, faster than the speed of light.
It could be no other way.
But to get velocities faster than 2c, I'm thinking that you'd first have to agree that 2c is possible, and right now we haven't got that second.

For the binary universe to exist, there has to be a connection between each particle's existence to affect one at the 'other end' instantaneously - no traveling or movement required. If there were no connection, the eventual flip would rely on a chain reaction which takes time to traverse the expanse of the universe, making that process a ray The only way around that (so far) would be that laser beam not having to travel from a source, but coming into existence across the entire universe suddenly.

Exactly why did you start posting about a "binary universe"?
Which is "exactly sort of like" a 'double single'.
The problem with that logic is that the universe can't be doubled.
The universe is the universe.
Half a universe can not be a whole universe.