Windows for free???

LarsG · Post by **LarsG** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:53 pm

DeeCee wrote: Freedom of choice is good stuff!

-DeeCee-

Hear hear.. If we were stuck with one or the other, we'd probably complain anyways.. :p

Psychophanta · Post by **Psychophanta** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:22 pm

Stability over instability...
Security over insecurity...

Is Linux or Unix more stable than windows? And more secure?
This is the same argument usually used by Linux defenders.

Who want to modify a OS? Few people. Moreover, I would prefer to create a new OS, so not needed open-source from other OSes.

I like to play games, to program, to compose music, to get info from web, to hear music, to watch DVD, DivX, and VideoCD films, etc, etc.
As i know, Linux forbids to me to play some games and some emulated machines games, it is slower than windows when moving graphics and windows on screen, forbids me to use my preferred music tools (ModPlug, GigaSampler, CakeWalk...), forbids to hear most of Amiga sound formats i hear with Deliplayer, forbids me to use Kai Power Tools SOAP and many other programs...

Ok, Linux for you; for now i get, use and work with Windows, it is secure, stable and powerful enough.

Post by **Dare2** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:54 pm

Things change.

There was a time when IBM, "The Big Blue" was considered the mean over-dominant giant.

And one day little micro-soft bucked IBM, and went its own way.

With the OS bundled into PCs and everything becoming "seamless", users no longer had to worry about OS, tech stuff, whether to use CPM/MPM or SCO or MSDOS, or how to get their spreadsheet data into their wordstar document.

Computing got easier.

Ta-dah! New big bad giant is born.

Things will change again.

MS (and windows) get a lot of bad press, but they also are also responsible for a lot of neat things.

MS (and Apple) made computers much easier to use through gui or windowed approaches with icons, etc, etc.

MS made the concept of integrated apps work (by this I mean the integration between, for eg, Word and Excel). They took the concept of a "package deal" to it's logical conclusion.

Things change.

Now *nix is getting it together with KDE, Gnome, etc.

As was pointed out, if the computer is just a switch-on and run thing, who really cares what makes it run. Not 99.9999' % of user who just want to be able to fire up MS office or Open Office or whatever and start typing.

Tah-dah. Now, Somewhere, lurking in the darkness, a new big baddie is forming. Gestating. Be afraid, be very afraid, etc, for the cycle will repeat.

I think open source is the way. (Open source can be propriety and commercial just as no-source can be free). This is almost forward to the past, when a business bought a licence for the whole package, including source.

Imagine if you could buy any package and run it exactly as it is, no problem. Or mod it if you wanted to, either directly or indirectly. That gives control back to the user. They can choose to use it or not. But it is there.

merendo · Post by **merendo** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:03 pm

@Psychophanta: It's not Linux that doesn't allow you to use your favourite software on it. I blame the Hard- and Software manufacturers. For example, my DSL device came without a driver for Linux and it doesn't seem like the manufacturer is going to offer a Linux driver for download. I don't care. If necessary, i am going to buy another DSL-device. For me, it's worth if it saves me from M$.

Compatibility has always been a problem

DeeCee · Post by **DeeCee** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:33 pm

Ok, Linux for you; for now i get, use and work with Windows, it is secure, stable and powerful enough.

Although I don't particularly agree with the "secure, stable..." comment, the issue *is* after all, still just a matter of perspective and personal choice.

...Go in peace and may the force be with you always!

-DeeCee-

Guimauve · Post by **Guimauve** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:42 pm

From www.rhino3d.com

System requirements

Rhino runs on ordinary Windows desktop and laptop computers, with:

Pentium, Celeron, or higher processor.

Windows 98/NT/ME/2000/XP for Intel or AMD.*

65 MB disk space.

128 MB RAM. 256 or more is recommended.

OpenGL graphic card recommended.

IntelliMouse recommended.

3-D digitizer optional.

*Rhino will NOT be ported to any other operating system, but Rhino does run on Apple Macs with Virtual PC

This why I continue to work with windows

When you have C++ source code it's very easy to port your program to Linux OS.

Fred know this, and give the choice to all of us. COOL !!!

Fred you are just the best of the best. Continue

Best Regards

Saboteur · Post by **Saboteur** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:18 pm

All this is nonsense, everybody install the OS wich works better. Some people use Windows without problem a long time, other (myself) have to reinstall Windows every 2 months. The worst is people think that reinstall Windows is NORMAL 8O but it wouldn't.

When I install Windows, the programs begin to fail (this only for me):
. Internet Explorer hang up, (I use Opera)
. MS Office show errors, (I use OpenOffice)
. Visual C++ is huge (no problem, I use PureBasic

)

But normally, if I install Linux, remain in hard disk until I want to try some distro, (and of course, I still use Opera, OpenOffice, PureBasic, Quake, Spectrum Emulator, etc...), without problems of speed. And it's hard back to Windows when you have used KDE.

And if I need something, I like to search in internet. Always find something interesting, open source and free. But it's true there is games I can't play in Linux, like Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale... (my favorites).

Other day I found X-evian, an spanish distro based on debian very good.

merendo · Post by **merendo** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:01 pm

@Guimauve:

*Rhino will NOT be ported to any other operating system, but Rhino does run on Apple Macs with Virtual PC

That's why i blame the Hard- and Software manufacturers...