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The issue for developers concerning law suits is not whether the app is right or wrong - the problem with litigation is that it is very expensive, so you will lose money, whether you win the case or not. Not only that, your/your app's reputation will be shot to pieces too.
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IdeasVacuum wrote:The issue for developers concerning law suits is not whether the app is right or wrong - the problem with litigation is that it is very expensive, so you will lose money, whether you win the case or not. Not only that, your/your app's reputation will be shot to pieces too.
If that were the case, then everyone's screwed if someone decides to take them to court, for any reason.

That's just sheer bad luck - no two ways about it. :lol:
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PB wrote:I have to say this: be careful you don't get sued. Seriously.
Medical diagnosis software is tightly regulated and if anyone,
even accidentally, thinks they have cancer because of your
app, then you're in for a world of financial hurt (possibly even
bankruptcy) if they act or rely on it. So I hope you've really
considered and made plans for that side of things.
Good point.
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PB wrote:...if anyone, even accidentally, thinks they have cancer because of your app, then you're in for a world of financial hurt...
You're right about that, but a properly worded disclaimer should cover that. Just as any standard EULA indemnifies the developer from any liability arising from the use of their software, a disclaimer does the same thing, expressly stating that the app should be used only as a guide, and is not meant as a substitute for professional medical advice. :)
Excellent point.
marc_256 wrote:@all
I'm talking with more and more people,
and all of them are having someone who have some cancer in the family or friends.
I did not realize that cancer is giving so big impact on peoples lives. :cry:

This gives me a big push to continue with my project.
To detect this in an earlier stage, this give a bigger chance to survive this disease.
By now we are all in an early state.

There are many more on topic pertinent videos on curing cancer if you are interested.
One common and interesting thing about the purported cures is that the national governments discourage them.
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heartbone wrote:One common and interesting thing about the purported cures is that the national governments discourage them.
Yes, with the most controversial one being the Gerson Therapy.
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Hi all,

You are all right, but you know, if I had something, whatever it was to help my father, ...
I used it at that moment.
I'm very scared now with my mother ...
The very important difference with my father and my mother,
was the time of detection of the cancer.
For my father the cancer was already to big.
TIME is the winner here.

It is not my goal to use this as a main medical diagnostic tool.
I'm not medically schooled.
I'm contacting some medically schooled people now to work with.

I know this is a utopian dream ...

marc,

sorry for my high school english :mrgreen:
Who knows, within some years, I speak only medical english ...
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I just lost my best friend to cancer. He was diagnosed with it September 2013, and passed away May 12, 2014. It happened so fast and was such a shock, I kept thinking he would beat it but it happened so fast.

Worse feeling in the world, especially when you lose someone close to you. :(
I hope you and your family the best, stay strong and safe.
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My condolences.
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Another thing to consider is fasting...the claims are recharging of your immune system and the obvious flushing of toxins.
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Nituvious wrote:I just lost my best friend to cancer. He was diagnosed with it September 2013, and passed away May 12, 2014. It happened so fast and was such a shock, I kept thinking he would beat it but it happened so fast.

Worse feeling in the world, especially when you lose someone close to you. :(
I hope you and your family the best, stay strong and safe.
thank you, and my condolences
that is the problem, the speed the cancer is taking over,
my father was also diagnosed in september 2013, and we lost him 9 jan 2014
till now i know no person who beated cancer. :cry:
a lot of family are past away from cancer last years,
cancer was something far away, but in the last years, it came closer and closer
yong and old :(
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marc_256 wrote:
Nituvious wrote:I just lost my best friend to cancer. He was diagnosed with it September 2013, and passed away May 12, 2014. It happened so fast and was such a shock, I kept thinking he would beat it but it happened so fast.

Worse feeling in the world, especially when you lose someone close to you. :(
I hope you and your family the best, stay strong and safe.
thank you, and my condolences
that is the problem, the speed the cancer is taking over,
my father was also diagnosed in september 2013, and we lost him 9 jan 2014
till now i know no person who beated cancer. :cry:
a lot of family are past away from cancer last years,
cancer was something far away, but in the last years, it came closer and closer
yong and old :(
I'm sad for you and your family... I do know several people who had more luck, and beated cancer. My ex-girlfriend's mother, more than 30 years ago, treated like a horse with enormous drugs doses, loosing all hair, and now strong ; three friends on the last 10 years, and I forget some. Don't loose hope, it can be beaten, it is everyday.
It is also a fight against causes. There's genetic factors, of course, but there's also environmental factors. In Belgium and north of France, industry, wars have poisoned water and soil, air is poisoned by smoke, plastic and furnitures are full of dangerous components, and I don't talk about food and work. We can do something against that, all of us.
Wish you more luck in the future...
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djes wrote:I do know several people who had more luck, and beated cancer. My ex-girlfriend's mother, more than 30 years ago, treated like a horse with enormous drugs doses, loosing all hair, and now strong ; three friends on the last 10 years, and I forget some. Don't loose hope, it can be beaten, it is everyday.
It is also a fight against causes. There's genetic factors, of course, but there's also environmental factors. In Belgium and north of France, industry, wars have poisoned water and soil, air is poisoned by smoke, plastic and furnitures are full of dangerous components, and I don't talk about food and work. We can do something against that, all of us.
Wish you more luck in the future...
Yes, you are right, but it is the time of detection of the cancer who is very important.
In an early detection stage the cancers can be beaten, but if it is spread out ... it is mostly to late. :cry:

So detection time is here the most important thing.
thats why I'm writing my (Utopian) CT/MRi 3D program, in the hope to create something helpful.

And yes, belgium and france, the old industry, but they told me in the hospital that we gone get the impact of the nuclear accident of Tsjernobyl now, and this is more dangerous than the old industries.
They told me, that there are 1000st of cancered people who are in the row now...
frightening, very frightening ... who is next ?
The cancer departments in the hospital are full. :?

sorry for my English ...

marc,
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> In an early detection stage the cancers can be beaten,
> but if it is spread out ... it is mostly to late

Very true. I worked with a 35-year-old lady who found out
she had cancer. Obviously it was detected late, because
they gave her one month to live. And like that, she was
gone. That was the first time cancer scared me. Living
life one day; gone by the end of the next month. Sad.
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marc_256 wrote:but they told me in the hospital that we gone get the impact of the nuclear accident of Tsjernobyl now
Hmm, that's interesting.

- In depth: Chernobyl's Accident Path and extension of the radioactive cloud

- Health Effects of Chernobyl - 25 years after the reactor catastrophe
- Effects of the Chernobyl disaster - 25 years after the incident
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Hi danilo,

For some time now, I was working with a company for creating a repair robot control unit for use in nuclear plants.

It was that time in belgium.
And every day, several times a day, there was a person who did some measurements around that building,
where they stored these machines.
And one day they detected a rise op radioactivity around the building ??!! :shock:
Strange thing, this was not possible !!
No panic, but strange...

And after some time, (I do not remember the exact date),
there was the message who came in, that there was a serious nuclear accident in Tsjernobyl.

So, I do not know who published all these documents.
But I can confirm it, it was here in belgium.

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marc_256 wrote:So, I do not know who published all these documents.
But I can confirm it, it was here in belgium.
I know, and we were also hit by the radioactive plume in Germany. I lived in Thuringia (German Democratic Republic) at this time,
near the border to Bavaria and Czech republic. Many documents clearly show that there were (and still are) problems in Europe, too.
Just couldn't find a document directly showing correlation between Chernobyl incident and numbers of cancer sufferer in western european countries today.
It would indeed be interesting, and I think it is quite possible that cancer is on the rise in European countries that were affected by lower radiation,
28 years ago. Does somebody know about serious publications that show such a correlation?

EDIT:
Chernobyl disaster - Human Impact already shows the controversy. Everybody has different numbers.
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