Looking to switch from VB, to either PureBasic or PowerBasic

thefool · Post by **thefool** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:24 am

i downloaded the demo, and bought it few days after.

Purebasic is the best ever happened to me! A few months ago i bought it. I was lost an making gui and more. But it took nearly no time. I was lost, until i found the "Include event loop" function in Visual Designer

The price of purebasic is a gift! I was suspicious. Now i know, 60$ is NOTHING, according to the functionalitys of PB. Small executables, and fast!

I, is in the middle of making a byte patcher. Its gonna have an maker, in wich you input adresses and bytes and info about your patch. Then you press the MAKE button, and out comes an 15 KB executable(without icon), including all data, and a nice gui.
Making that is impossimble in VB according to those runtime files. Its hard in c++, but rather easy in pb. I am a newbie, and i use this forum much.
Thanks to all those people in this forum.

If it was up to me to choose for you, i would choose PureBasic!
why:
price
functionality
community
easy
adwanced
speed
size

and much more...
HAPPY NEWYEAR

Mortamer · Post by **Mortamer** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:58 am

Pretty much sold on PureBasic (especially because I don't know enough WinAPI to use PowerBasic) but I have a couple more questions first. First off, someone said PureBasic can handle only 255 simultaneous connections (which is, like someone else said, small for a server environment) and I was wondering if their are work arounds like adding multiple sockets? Another thing, someone mentioned the syntax for PowerBasic was much closer to VB than PureBasic, but do people generally learn PureBasic fast if they know VB?

Shannara · Post by **Shannara** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:09 am

Hmm, I work for in an environment that requires server-grade applications.. bleh! Purebasic is sorely lacking in that aspect, big time. I have come to rely on third party (non-PB) controls to make use of such. Someone on these forms are having problems with Winsock2 (RAW WINSOCK, I think is the title), they may be able to help. Howevever, I hear that PB has great client-side socket support... *shrugs*.

There are some workarounds on these forums I believe. Look under "Winsock" in the announcements, currently on 2nd page as I type this. Its limited, but useable

Mortamer · Post by **Mortamer** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:15 am

could you post a link to the 3rd party server controls' website?

Paul Squires · Post by **Paul Squires** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:56 am

dontmailme wrote:I downloaded both PureBasic and Powerbasic and decided on this one because of the command set over PowerBasic.

PowerBasic does not have a downloadable demo version. How could you have downloaded it???

Paul Squires
http://www.planetsquires.com

Paul Squires · Post by **Paul Squires** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:00 am

Kanati wrote:Powerbasic Cons:
Almost no "extras". If you want to use it you have to know the Win32 API pretty well.
Elitist community. Ask a stupid question and you'll get yer ass handed to you on a silver platter.
Price is somewhat prohibitive for the hobbyist and you have to pay for the few "extras" that are available for even more out-of-pocket expense.

Ouch! I disagree about the elitist community comment. I have frequented the PowerBasic forum for three years and it is very rarely the case that anyone gets their ass handed to them.

I do agree with you that price can be prohibitive and the "extras" do cost more.

Paul Squires
http://www.planetsquires.com

Paul Squires · Post by **Paul Squires** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:05 am

Danilo wrote:With PowerBasic you have to program plain WinAPI (like C), it doesnt have built-in controls and all this.
..... In PowerBasic you have only plain WinAPI like in C...

That's not true. PowerBasic has a feature rich command set called DDT that creates dialogs and controls using very easy functions. No API required.

You can create many programs in PowerBasic without ever having to use the WinAPI. If you need to use the WinAPI, it is there for you. There is no requirement that you must use it.

As you can tell, I am a PowerBasic user more so than a PureBasic user. I do like what I see about PureBasic. I hope that it continues to grow and become more and more popular. The PureBasic community here also seems to be very alive and responsive as well.

Paul Squires
http://www.planetsquires.com

Max. · Post by **Max.** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:20 am

My few cents:

If money doesn't matter, go with PureBasic & give it a try.

I bought roughly 12 months ago and though I can hardly spend the time on programming, I liked to do, I had a good impression of the PureBasic Cons and Pros within 4 weeks - and 2 finished projects; 1 a bar code solution for a major company, utilizing special printers, another a frontend for a MySQL Database.
No problems with stability, not a single complaint in 11 months.

Bugfixes are done very quickly (it's amazing to report a bug on the forum and see Fred's reply 'can you try this update?' within a very few hours!

The community is IMO near to perfect. Small, agreed - but very capable & helpful. And lots of solutions are presented already - dig a bit in the tips & tricks. Or have a look at
http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/pb/ &
http://www.purearea.net

Lastly, go to the Feature Requests & Wishlist forum. Then have a look for wishes so far not added to the language.

Ah, screw my rant. Just order PureBasic.

Wayne Diamond · Post by **Wayne Diamond** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:54 am

Do you REALLY have to buy JUST ONE? It sounds the same as if you're trying to decide between whether or not you should buy a screwdriver or a spanner for your toolbelt. My recommendation: BUY BOTH! They both empower you in different ways, so much so that I can't really compare them. I am a happy registered user of both Purebasic and Powerbasic, and can say that _both_ have unique advantages and disadvantages, so get both and get the best of both worlds.