About my "Affects the whole World" post

[IdeasVacuum]

I'm sorry c4s, you got completely the wrong end of the stick about that post. I'm not affiliated with the author of that web page in any way and there certainly isn't any money in it for me in any way at all.

It was not my intention to offend anybody either.

You are right when you say the author of the web page is trying to sell his stuff, of course he is - but then I could have had a link to the Apple web or the Microsoft web and do you know what? - they want to sell stuff to you too. It doesn't mean the content of a webpage is not of interest or of use. OK, it doesn't mean it is interesting or useful either, but that is for the reader to decide for themselves.

The reason I posted the link is because it explains quite well that the US Dollar could lose it's status as the world's trading currency in the near future. That is something we all need to know, where ever we may live. I'm from and live in the UK. The UK did a currency deal with China this month, whereby the two countries will now use each other's currency for trading, instead of the US dollar. That is a major shift in UK policy, we have always been allied to the USA and the US dollar in the past.

[Little John]

You had just posted a link (without any additional text) to an advertisement video. Even if you believe all the unproven claims in that video, that certainly does not mean that it's of interest for the whole world.

I don't think that the heading "Offtopic" means that this section is a proper place to post (links to) advertisements or any random nonsense.

No flame wars
No religious posts
No sexual or offensive posts

Fred, maybe this list should be expanded by the following items:

"No advertisements"
"No pseudo-medical nonsense"
"No atrocity propaganda of any kind"
"No suggestions about the proper way to 'save the world' "

[Demivec]

"No suggestions about the proper way to 'save the world' "

IMHO, I think you already broke this one by 'suggesting a proper way to save the world' as a 'suggested proper way to save the world'.

I think the short list that Fred posted is adequate in most cases. If all advertisements were limited for instance, you couldn't have a thread on 'good free software', 'funny commercials or videos', or 'great music', etc.

The other things you mentioned are usually easy to spot, they stand out quite a bit on a programming forum. A moderator can snuff them out rather easily if they don't really belong here. Each reader can report the posting as specify the reason under 'Other'.

[Little John]

"No suggestions about the proper way to 'save the world' "

IMHO, I think you already broke this one by 'suggesting a proper way to save the world' as a 'suggested proper way to save the world'.

What I suggested is nothing less and nothing more than an extension of the Offtopic Rules.

The other things you mentioned are usually easy to spot, they stand out quite a bit on a programming forum. A moderator can snuff them out rather easily if they don't really belong here. Each reader can report the posting as specify the reason under 'Other'.

So what? E.g. religious or sexual posts are also easy to spot by moderators or other readers. They are nevertheless mentioned in the Offtopic Rules.

[IdeasVacuum]

Hi Little John. The situation is of interest to the whole World because nearly all countries trade internationally in US dollars and indeed most countries, like yours, have US dollar reserves that could diminish in value. It could be a 'bad thing', where individual countries strike individual deals all over the show, such as the UK has done with China, or perhaps it may lead to a single world currency not controlled by a single state, which potentially would be a 'good thing'.

The effect this might have on the USA is of interest to the whole world too, since the USA trades everywhere and is a big market for other countries - if the US currency were to collapse, it's imports would surely reduce as it's buying power is lowered.

Anyway, let's all get back to coding the next big thing.........

[PB]

Come on guys, the other post was locked for a reason.
Now it's just continuing here as a new thread to bypass
the lock. Once it's locked, let it be. Don't start it up again.

[IdeasVacuum]

Agreed

[skywalk]

Methinks Off Topic is intentionally wide open, so why all the fuss
I saw no spam or maliciousness in this or the previous post.
The concepts of currency and devaluation should be of interest to many.
Critics can pass without censure.

[LuCiFeR[SD]]

Not that my opinion counts for much, but personally all religious and political/monetary threads/discussion should be banned from the forum as they just lead to flame wars. So I absolutely agree with little John in principal that the forum rules should be adapted.

There are forums which are dedicated to discussing such subjects like these with like-minded individuals, surely it makes more sense to use them instead of a programming forum?

[heartbone]

Methinks Off Topic is intentionally wide open, so why all the fuss
I saw no spam or maliciousness in this or the previous post.
The concepts of currency and devaluation should be of interest to many.
Critics can pass without censure.

That is an educated adult's viewpoint, and I agree.

Not that my opinion counts for much, but personally all religious and political/monetary threads/discussion should be banned from the forum as they just lead to flame wars. So I absolutely agree with little John in principal that the forum rules should be adapted.

There are forums which are dedicated to discussing such subjects like these with like-minded individuals, surely it makes more sense to use them instead of a programming forum?

Actually no, it does not make more sense.
You see the other forums don't have the same audience.

From what I have previously experienced only closed minded individuals have a problem with,
and try to discourage other people from sharing ideas on any Off Topic forum thread.

I do wonder why that Cell Phone thread was locked last week when it violated no forum rules.

Yes Rings you are a moderator, but was there really anything to moderate in that thread?
(I did not create that thread, someone else moved my initial post and thought it deserved a thread of its on.
After it was created, I decided to take advantage to educate.)

Just letting you know that your stated excuse for locking

locked, as its full of non purebasic related stuff,
much more than just only off topic....

does not make any sense.

If the truth makes you uncomfortable, should you have the right to inhibit communication?

Unless you have a lot of phone company stock, and want to profit at the expense of others
by preventing others from learning about the potential for health damage...
what else could be the motivation for that lock besides protecting the forum from the truth?

[Little John]

what else could be the motivation for that lock besides protecting the forum from the truth?

The truth(TM) is of course, that the earth is a flat disk. Everyone who cannot see that, is obviously closed minded.

Uups ... sorry. It should be:

The truth(TM) is of course, that the earth is a flat disk. Everyone who cannot see that, is obviously closed minded.

[LuCiFeR[SD]]

That is an educated adult's viewpoint, and I agree.

That is the most sensible thing I've actually seen you write on the forum.

Actually no, it does not make more sense.
You see the other forums don't have the same audience.

And again, Now that is a logical answer I am quite happy to read...

From what I have previously experienced only closed minded individuals have a problem with,
and try to discourage other people from sharing ideas on any Off Topic forum thread.

I do wonder why that Cell Phone thread was locked last week when it violated no forum rules.

And here is where you start going wrong... you see, I am perfectly happy with debate, And I am not as closed minded as you seem to think. I just dislike posts that basically look like spam. Especially posts where a person ego makes them write in larger and larger fonts in a rainbow of colours to make a point.... Not like an adult, but rather more like a child.

Yes Rings you are a moderator, but was there really anything to moderate in that thread?
(I did not create that thread, someone else moved my initial post and thought it deserved a thread of its on.
After it was created, I decided to take advantage to educate.)

Just letting you know that your stated excuse for locking

locked, as its full of non purebasic related stuff,
much more than just only off topic....

does not make any sense.

If the truth makes you uncomfortable, should you have the right to inhibit communication?

Unless you have a lot of phone company stock, and want to profit at the expense of others
by preventing others from learning about the potential for health damage...
what else could be the motivation for that lock besides protecting the forum from the truth?

The truth is, you are using this thread as a thinly veiled excuse to personally attack a moderators decision. Which is a breach of the forum rules. The correct way that a reasoned adult would deal with this is a private message to a member of the moderation/administration team.

So by default, your attitude and downright disrespect for people with differing opinions to your own proves beyond shadow of a doubt why threads of this nature should be banned by default in the forum rules.

[heartbone]

If in your opinion my question is a personal attack,
then that is just the way that you think.

Just so the forum knows, I've received PMs from this member,
(one who is now dissecting my posts line by line)
asking me not to post any more threads like the Cell Phone,
immediately before it was locked.

That "control freak" type of behavior displayed in his private messages to me,
and shown above where he blatantly mis characterizes my post,
while attempting for some reason to discourage the use of font size and color,
combined with his forum ID LuCiFeR[SD],
makes me think he's simply a head case to be ignored, you know?
(Sometimes ten years is too long and it's time to move on.)

Am I correct?

[LuCiFeR[SD]]

If in your opinion my question is a personal attack,
then that is just the way that you think.

Oh, that is what it was...? What makes my opinion any less valid than yours?

Just so the forum knows, I've received PMs from this member,
(one who is now dissecting my posts line by line)
asking me not to post any more threads like the Cell Phone,
immediately before it was locked.

ahhh, ok... this is how you want to play it is it.....

Right, time to take this private....

YOU, are no better than those fucking annoying spam bots. Your personal opinion of me.... I couldn't give a flying fuck about. Just so we are clear on that.

and now on a more polite note... PLEASE, stop posting crap like that. that is all I am asking. PLEASE.

Thank you

Kind Regards,
Ash.

And as you can see, I am quite happy to post the same, unedited text in public too. And I stand by each and every word of that private message.

That "control freak" type of behavior displayed in his private messages to me,
and shown above where he blatantly mis characterizes my post,
while attempting for some reason to discourage the use of font size and color,
combined with his forum ID LuCiFeR[SD],
makes me think he's simply a head case to be ignored, you know?
(Sometimes ten years is too long and it's time to move on.)

Am I correct?

No, you are incorrect. My choice of nickname, haha, yeah.. that makes me a "head case", I gotta admit it... can't argue with your logic there kid.

[Joakim Christiansen]

Why stop a flame war in the off topic section?
Only those who are stupid enough to partake in it will get hurt. It's not like it hurts us normal users of the forum since we can just avoid those threads?

Actually it could solve it self since those who uses energy on their ego in this forum are more likely to leave when the result of such a "war" hurts it. No point locking every thread? If they want to fight then let them?