New Version ?

Brujah · Post by **Brujah** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 2:53 pm

Is there work in progress for the new linux version ?
The last one is more than half a year old....
I need a lot of funktions... like packing and writing text...
When will the new version for linux be out ?
I want to get productive soon...

LarsG · Post by **LarsG** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:03 pm

Brujah wrote:Is there work in progress for the new linux version ?
The last one is more than half a year old....
I need a lot of funktions... like packing and writing text...
When will the new version for linux be out ?
I want to get productive soon...

Hang in there!!

I think a new version isn't very far away... Rumors says it'll bring the Linux version up to the same as the current Windows version..
Some of the developers might want to confirm this though..

-Lars

dmoc · Post by **dmoc** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:11 pm

:roll:

Akuma no Houkon · Post by **Akuma no Houkon** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:57 pm

The newest linux version should be here very soon.

dmoc · Post by **dmoc** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 4:18 pm

:roll:

bfy

LarsG · Post by **LarsG** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 4:39 pm

dmoc wrote::roll: bfy

Q: What does that mean?!?

-Lars

Brujah · Post by **Brujah** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:08 pm

Soon sounds good

)))
But is that 2 Weeks, or 2 Month ?

When you give me the new compiler I give the Linux Community a new and very addictive game!
Its already running on windows for Aeons, I just want to convert it.

And the best thing is: We will have the same Codebase for Windows and
Linux then. And that rulez!!!

Keep up the good work!

For those that are interested in the Windows version:
laby.toybox.de
Its called "The lost Labyrinth"

Post by **Berikco** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:23 pm

Nice game

dmoc · Post by **dmoc** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:08 pm

bfy: big f*cking yawn

No offence intended, it's just that this topic keeps cropping up, then those "in-the-know" predict an imminent release without being specific (gotta keep those secrets :roll: )... heard the same for the past year but the Linux version just seems to slip further and further behind. As a coincidence a friend today took issue with me claiming PB is x-platform, seems the definition is a bit debatable. He claims true x-platform means *most* programs will have little if any platform specific code and from what he has seen most PB programs are *dependent* on platform specific code, ie, Windows. I found it difficult to dispute. But then Fred could surprise everyone... can't say too much, wink, wink, because, eh, well, I haven't a clue

TronDoc · Post by **TronDoc** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:12 am

Brujah wrote:And the best thing is: We will have the same Codebase for Windows and Linux then. And that rulez!!!

With WinDoze "LongHair" coming, I'm moving more towards Linux lately. It will be nice to have better cross-platform coding ability. Joe

Akuma no Houkon · Post by **Akuma no Houkon** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:38 am

dmoc wrote:bfy: big f*cking yawn No offence intended, it's just that this topic keeps cropping up, then those "in-the-know" predict an imminent release without being specific (gotta keep those secrets :roll: )... heard the same for the past year but the Linux version just seems to slip further and further behind. As a coincidence a friend today took issue with me claiming PB is x-platform, seems the definition is a bit debatable. He claims true x-platform means *most* programs will have little if any platform specific code and from what he has seen most PB programs are *dependent* on platform specific code, ie, Windows. I found it difficult to dispute. But then Fred could surprise everyone... can't say too much, wink, wink, because, eh, well, I haven't a clue

If your friend cant make non platform specific apps in purebasic, then that doesnt speak much for him as a programmer. One of those types who relies on premade functions to make his app I assume. I stay away from API at all costs, always have, I prefer to write my own functions rather than use premade ones (unless its part of the language). I only use API when I have no choice like for getting the DC of a window or some such, but those have equivlents in XWindows as well. I have a project of over 50,000 lines of code that runs in windows I have been converting to purebasic and so far it initalizes all of the libraries and starts the core of the app and the only OS specific functions are just the NAMES of the DLL's, "libfmod.so" in linux, "fmod.dll" in windows, everything else uses pure platform independant functions and runs and compiles perfectly on both OS's.

The linux version should be available very soon, I dont know how much more Fred has to work on to bring it from 3.79a to 3.80 but I dont think it can be too much that will delay the release that much. Fred knows very well that a huge majority of his users purchased purebasic for the very reason that it has a linux compiler. I am one of them. I spent years waiting for PowerBasic to atleast give an estimated date on "when" their "work in progress" of making a linux compiler would be finished. Not a single whisper. I purchased PureBasic because I saw a nice couple month release cycle.

Thats what you get from "growing up" in the windows enviroment, you get lazy, and start programing things that could never be ported to anything else, using hundreds of api calls to make your work easier.

dmoc · Post by **dmoc** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:41 am

If your friend cant make non platform specific apps in purebasic, then that doesnt speak much for him as a programmer. One of those types who relies on premade functions to make his app I assume.

Yes, you are presuming and jumping to conclusions. Nothing I said implies anything about my friends ability as a programmer.

I only use API when I have no choice like for getting the DC of a window or some such, but those have equivlents in XWindows as well.

Excellent example! So your skills are x-platform, not the language.

I dont know how much more Fred has to work on to bring it from 3.79a to 3.80

Wrong. The last release I am aware of and according to PB's website is v3.50 Feb 10th 2003.

Thats what you get from "growing up" in the windows enviroment, you get lazy, and start programing things that could never be ported to anything else, using hundreds of api calls to make your work easier.

Who are you referring to? If it's a general statement I agree but then programming in BASIC ***IS*** lazy-ish and the only thing worse than over-reliance on API, by choice or through lack of choice, is recreating the wheel for the billion'th time.

To clarify my original comment: several PB users, myself included (and you obviously, or maybe "maybe", I will not presume to know for sure), have enthusiastically took to PB because of it's claim to be x-platform but very quickly discovered problems with the Linux version and get no replies to bug reports. Enthusiasm wanes, numbers of Linux users ends up looking low, ergo no impetus for maintaining said Linux version but... cough, cough... claim to be x-platform remains. Anyone done a feature-to-feature comparison lately?

Full marks to Fred and others for work done on the Windoze version so far, but I hope for greater feature-parity at some point, preferably soon.

PS: Yeah, I know there are still Amiga users out there

but my A2000 has been in storage for the last 10 years and promises of a revival are getting, well, boring.

Post by **Rings** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:59 am

the work on the linux version is in progress, and some ppl use a 3.79 version to do some testings (me included). so its not a big surprise that the 3.8 version of Purebasic-linux is not far away.There are still some thinks missing and must been done, but Fred is hard working on it (between dust and dirty).

dmoc · Post by **dmoc** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:08 pm

Rings, thanks for the info.

TronDoc · Post by **TronDoc** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 2:59 am

thanks for the update.
--jb

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