Building my new system fx-8120

[Zebuddi123]

In fact as an analogy it`s like saying my ferrari will do`s 0-60 in 3 secs shame the poor old porsche only does it in 4 secs. Unless you`ve some where to do 200+mph like the autobahn (folding etc) my porche will take me just as fast on the streets i use as the ferrari i was initially celebrating my new system that after selling my old q6600 system with all my new set up entails as in base computer stands me at £100 after 25+ years of buying hardware from paying £2000 for a system with 150mhz 386 in the early 80`s what a fantasic bargin

Just wait till your grand kids are saying hey granddad i just bought a system £100 it will do 10 googleflops " you should have waited intels new gpu-cpu 16,000,000 core i5000 will do 12 googleflops " "shit i should have waited that frog genome sequencing project i`m doing for school would have only taken me 2 mins instead of 3" O`well never mind.

Seriously guys would you have not be completly happy for £100 smackers

fx8120 @4ghz cpu - voltage down to 1.26250 stable as if at 1500mhz
16gb crucial 1600mhz ballistic sport ddr3 ram - running a1666mhz not a hint of a problem (great choice)
asus m5a97 r2.0 usb 3 6x6gbs sata 3 +plus lots more - really nice uefi bios
120gb ocz solid 3 sata 3 510mb read 500mb write - lightning fast

Zebuddi.

[Zach]

Hey bro, be happy with what you got. That's all that matters..

I went through the same bullshit arguments with people at a Tech forum I hang out on, because I bought a 250GB Velociraptor as a dedicated gaming drive, instead of an SSD which almost cost $100 more for the same amount of storage space. They completely refused to acknowledge the practicality requirements I had, in that I needed decent storage space, for a decent price (I paid around $120 I think for the drive) but still a little better performance than a standard 7200RPM mechanical drive. Despite all this I was one of the FIRST early adopters of, and proponents on SSD's on the forum, and currently own two.

People are just stupid that way..

When I went from my Core 2 Duo @ 3Ghz, to my Phenom II @ 3.5Ghz I noticed a clear performance boost in a lot of my gaming FPS, and some other things on the side. I was actually happy because I had been grinding my teeth over my fast upgrade cycle of an HD 5770 to an HD 5850, to what I now own, an HD 7870. Because the performance boost just didn't seem like much especially for the hundreds of dollars I was spending (I game @ 1920x1080). Just upgrading to the Phenom II made a difference with my HD7870. Although I admit I probably won't keep it for too much longer either.. Unless the price drops and I can buy another cheap to CrossFire, or a better model comes out at an affordable price.

I admit I was crushed when Bulldozer came out.. I could not afford to upgrade Intel after they pulled the rug out of me and EOL'd the Core 2 series and socket 775 shortly after I invested in them. I made a leap of faith and went back to AMD because I needed to upgrade my core components (CPU/Mobo/RAM and later on PSU) and it was affordable for me to do that with them. I planned on buying Bulldozer after it launched, and was using my Phenom II (quad core) as a stop-gap solution to hold me over.

But my hope remains that they will continue to tweak the architecture and produce a decent chip, without abandoning Socket AM3+ for another couple of years. I will buy a CPU down the line at some point regardless, I think. I really do hope they improve its single core performance a lot, but also I hope more and more multi-threaded apps and games start coming out. Because despite its poor single-core performance, all the reviews I said tended to agree that where Bulldozer really shined was multi-threaded performance, and that they believed it would scale up quite nicely to larger core counts.

I wouldn't mind dropping $150 in the future for an 8 core or more core CPU that has great single/multi-threaded performance. But we really need the games and applications to actually take advantage of that too.. I do video encoding from time to time, so that alone is incentive for me to go with as many cores as I can get per dollar.

But going from what you had to your new rig is definitely not anything to be ashamed of. If You feel like you got your monies worth and you clearly see better performance, then that is all that matters in the end.

[Warmonger]

Well guys the phemon 2 is faster would you notice that in every day use ? if you play high end games maybe you`d loose some frame rates I for one dont play game unless its chess but that dont count right ! its so my system last me another 2-3 years in fact in 4-5 years it will still kill every thing i chuck at it and still be 100% responsive and that makes me happy i could have quite easily bought an i7 3960x on offer £787.00 so on and so forth. i looked at upgrading my cpu to the best that would fit my 775 mb £190 its like buying ridiculously over priced mac hardware my first foray in the apple world a 2.53 ghz mac mini £550 for what you get its rediculous ( no offence apple guys).

Anyways if you not a massive games player i would recommend one all day long!!! , day 2 of my new system and i`m loving it

Zebuddi.

You would notice a difference in real world applications. The whole idea behind single thread performance is all these programs that are written in a single thread would reflect what the CPU cores are truly capable of. Of course its not something you would physically notice to your naked eye since you are running SSD's and other latest hardware available. Tho if you were converting movies in a single threaded video converter (hypothetically speaking), or something of that nature is where you would see the differences. It may take 5 minutes on your FX-8150 as to where it may take only 4 minutes and 30 seconds on a Phenom II 955. Its where there is numbers that show you the performance is the only place you will recognize it (such as WinRAR, but WinRAR I believe is now threaded so Bulldozer will crush Phenom II in it). For most people 4 minutes and 30 seconds isn't much different then 5 minutes. You may notice frame rate drops in some games that are CPU dependent since they are weaker cores. Tho if your not a gamer then it doesn't really matter. If you are a number cruncher then Bulldozer is a right choice for you. Tho for the price tag, you should of invested the few extra bucks and got at least a i5 3570k. Some people like Zach who doesn't know this field will argue its about what is best for you, is all you need. Which is a completely ridiculous argument of itself. I could go out and buy a i5 3570k for $229 right now that would completely murder that 8 core. For what? $30 more? Plus its longevity on the market will last several of years due to its overclock ability and scaling. Plus as most software is compiled through Intel's compiler their chips have an edge (Intel's compiler favors Intel processors). Not that im implying that you got ripped off by buying a bulldozer. Absolutely not, you paid equivalent to $162 for that entire setup? You pretty much ripped off the guy you bought it from. Tho I am implying if you went out and bought all of that hardware today at retail price, it would be a stupid thing to do. The fact that you got it for so cheap is what makes it a awesome deal.

[Zebuddi123]

Hi Warmonger i had this running for several days now and i have to say in the benchmarks it has blown away everything except the top range i7 3960x thing is ive had this baby running at 4.0ghz ish the ram clocks to 2133mhz http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-det ... 0-1600mhz/ although ive only had it running to 1866mhz.

At the moment i`am looking to find the oc sweet spot got to admit they ramp up heat very quickly, bigest mistake i made was i should have got the 8150 for the price you pay for a good after cooler i could of had 4+ ghz easily with the cooler i have but never mind its still a sweet deal

max 61 c

idle @30c
load @60+c prime95 blend ------ in minutes

so with this setup i think im looking at 3.8-3.9 ghz which aint bad plenty fast enough

i you would like i`ll post some pics as proof of pudding !!!

Zebuddi.

wrote this this morning if your initerested in clocking save my old brain for the timing calcs

to anyone who downloads. use timing at own risk and most of all " make sure you know what your doing "

http://goo.gl/gFEi9

[Zach]

Way to bury a personal attack in the middle of your wall of text, War.


I've been building computers by hand since I was 11, and while I don't put the emphasis on pure numbers that I used to, I sure as hell know what I'm doing and how to weight a decision about what I buy.

Sincerely,
Up-Yours.

[Warmonger]

Hi Warmonger i had this running for several days now and i have to say in the benchmarks it has blown away everything except the top range i7 3960x thing is ive had this baby running at 4.0ghz ish the ram clocks to 2133mhz http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-det ... 0-1600mhz/ although ive only had it running to 1866mhz.

At the moment i`am looking to find the oc sweet spot got to admit they ramp up heat very quickly, bigest mistake i made was i should have got the 8150 for the price you pay for a good after cooler i could of had 4+ ghz easily with the cooler i have but never mind its still a sweet deal

max 61 c

idle @30c
load @60+c prime95 blend ------ in minutes

so with this setup i think im looking at 3.8-3.9 ghz which aint bad plenty fast enough

i you would like i`ll post some pics as proof of pudding !!!

Zebuddi.

wrote this this morning if your initerested in clocking save my old brain for the timing calcs

to anyone who downloads. use timing at own risk and most of all " make sure you know what your doing "

http://goo.gl/gFEi9

There is no way a FX-8150 can even compete among a last gen Sandy Bridge i7. Let alone a top of the line 3960k. Intel's core performance with Nehalem is far superior then the Phenom II's. A Phenom II 1100T will wipe the FX-8150 clean off the plate (except in multi threaded benchmarks). And Bulldozers core performance is even worse then that. That kinda gives you an idea of why its called the "faildozer". You are most likely benching in multi threaded benchmarks, where 8 integer cores is going to show its true performance. Bulldozer was made to handle HUGE workloads, it would of been great for servers. But the power consumption of bulldozer, is about as big as the fuel consumption of the machinery's name it copies. The the key to a processors performance is how well it handles single thread workloads (this is how us professional enthusiasts benchmark them). With more then 90% of your daily tasks being single threaded, the sheer amount of cores a processor has is useless. Again im not bashing the deal you got, im just stating the facts about how bad the lineup really is. The only way the chips make up for it, is how well they overclock. Tho Piledriver is coming very soon (Oct 1st) and AMD will have a chance to redeem itself.

Way to bury a personal attack in the middle of your wall of text, War.

I've been building computers by hand since I was 11, and while I don't put the emphasis on pure numbers that I used to, I sure as hell know what I'm doing and how to weight a decision about what I buy.

Sincerely,
Up-Yours.

I wasn't attacking you, I was attacking the obvious lack of expertise in comparison to myself.

Sincerely,
The Expert

[spacebuddy]

Anandtech review

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the- ... 150-tested

[Warmonger]

Anandtech review

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the- ... 150-tested

Pretty sad when last gen and Intel's mid range chips can level the field with AMD's flagship processor. Hopefully Piledriver wont be a disappointment either.

[Zach]

I wasn't attacking you, I was attacking the obvious lack of expertise in comparison to myself.

Sincerely,
The Expert

Been gone awhile, but I feel like being petty today.

You impinged on my credibility with a pretty broad generalization that I don't know anything (and at the same time providing no substance). So, yes, I'm going to call that a personal attack.

Narcissistic much?

Differing opinions do not equate to "I know more than you there I am better", plenty of folks here know more than I do about lots of things. The difference is they usually try to teach me something, not gloat that they are superior to anyone who will listen. Seems to be a pattern with you though, huh...

Pro Tip: You'd get a far better reaction from me if you took a statement you had issue with and asked why I thought the way I did.

[idle]

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