Socialist Capitalism..

[skywalk]

Not everyone is a creater and we just dont need so many creators. I just postet how many people you need to create a machine that replaces a multiply of people needed to create it and maintain it.
You would not take 40 experts and not the CNC machine. The machine is so much cheaper in the long run. In the car industry we have whole production lines which are monitored by a few people and the main work is done by machines, producing one car every hour. Do we need 10000 people designing cars? No we dont.

I believe you are the definition of a pessimist.
Of course we need MORE designers of cars. Because the current design has not dramatically changed in 75 years. Sure, there are seat belts and airbags, etc., but this single product produces far too many fatalities statistically and is a pollution machine. The trend does seem to be improving, but it is not from reducing the number of designers?

Please do not misinterpret me. We absolutely need more people to become creators. NOT just button pushers or observers of machine production. Discover what thrills you or sparks your imagination and pursue it as if you were hunting your last meal. Only through dedication and passion is real innovation achieved.

[Zach]

Not everyone is a creater and we just dont need so many creators. I just postet how many people you need to create a machine that replaces a multiply of people needed to create it and maintain it.
You would not take 40 experts and not the CNC machine. The machine is so much cheaper in the long run. In the car industry we have whole production lines which are monitored by a few people and the main work is done by machines, producing one car every hour. Do we need 10000 people designing cars? No we dont.

I believe you are the definition of a pessimist.
Of course we need MORE designers of cars. Because the current design has not dramatically changed in 75 years. Sure, there are seat belts and airbags, etc., but this single product produces far too many fatalities statistically and is a pollution machine. The trend does seem to be improving, but it is not from reducing the number of designers?

Please do not misinterpret me. We absolutely need more people to become creators. NOT just button pushers or observers of machine production. Discover what thrills you or sparks your imagination and pursue it as if you were hunting your last meal. Only through dedication and passion is real innovation achieved.

When I think of "car designer" I think the the aesthetics, not the mechanics. For the actual functional design of a car I see an Engineer. A designer just puts an ugly body on it.

God I wish we could go back to the Muscle Car era. Those cars LOOKED like beasts and had personality. I don't like this new "boxy" design trend, they are just fake Muscle Car wannabes, it doesn't matter what's under the hood if you sacrifice the look for "aerodynamic considerations"...

The one thing about that era was that cars strived to be different. These days almost every car is a carbon copy of the others, save for a few alterations.

[RichAlgeni]

God I wish we could go back to the Muscle Car era. Those cars LOOKED like beasts and had personality. I don't like this new "boxy" design trend, they are just fake Muscle Car wannabes, it doesn't matter what's under the hood if you sacrifice the look for "aerodynamic considerations"...

The one thing about that era was that cars strived to be different. These days almost every car is a carbon copy of the others, save for a few alterations.

Zach, that's why I LOVE my Pontiac G8 GT! After slight mods, 425 HP!

[Zach]

I want to own a 1965 Plymouth Barracuda one day. If I ever get rich and actually have money..
My uncle has one, he bought it when he was 16 and he's slowly worked on restoring it over the years along with his son. Even in its worst condition he would still get offers to buy the car and turn them down. He used to take me for rides in it from time to time, it was just awesome.

It's not the prettiest car, and it has a small engine compartment, but for some reason I just love it.. It certainly sounds like a muscle car at the least!

Here is an interesting video

1965 Barracuda vs 1969 Camaro Match Race

And a nice show off of another '65
1965 Barracuda Formula S

[Primoz128]

I want to own a 1965 Plymouth Barracuda one day. If I ever get rich and actually have money..
My uncle has one, he bought it when he was 16 and he's slowly worked on restoring it over the years along with his son. Even in its worst condition he would still get offers to buy the car and turn them down. He used to take me for rides in it from time to time, it was just awesome.

It's not the prettiest car, and it has a small engine compartment, but for some reason I just love it.. It certainly sounds like a muscle car at the least!

Here is an interesting video

1965 Barracuda vs 1969 Camaro Match Race

And a nice show off of another '65
1965 Barracuda Formula S

Meh i rather love my dad's car on 4 wheel thrust, which new one costs 23K € ^^.

[utopiomania]

Well, I think you all missed something. Companies in Norway employs the most efficent
workforce on this planet.

It's the only way a society like this can survive, and it's the only way to meet competition
from countries like China.

Our exports to China has exploded in the last few years. What do you sell to them?

[KJ67]

Companies in Norway employs the most efficient workforce on this planet

I've worked on most continents, still just waiting for south America, Australia and maybe Antarctica to complete my list. And if you where to say 'least corrupt' I would probably agree, but efficient - no...
When I look around there are some very skilled and motivated people, but too few and hardly none has the motivation to really push anything. We have been too comfortable since we invented the oil here, to used to the government to sort thing out, to pampered...

What I take from living and working in many different places is that general low-tax societies seems to be more corrupt & high-tax less. Make sense I figure, where people pay a lot in tax they feel that public funds are 'there' money and has very little acceptance to any misuse of it. Still, low tax gives a higher degree of 'freedom'.
We will make it here as long as we can keep the corruption down, but our wages can't compete globally and will need correction. Sweden has the same education and low corruption but at 20% lower cost (which is why we go there to shop ), then same for Denmark and some more countries. The income from the oil may be our blessing (what would this place look like if we only had 'stones, fish & potatoes'?), but also our curse...

[RichAlgeni]

Well, I think you all missed something. Companies in Norway employs the most efficent
workforce on this planet.

Because there is nothing else to do there 9 months of the year! The rest of us have lives!

[utopiomania]

Because there is nothing else to do there 9 months of the year! The rest of us have lives!

Probably true!

This is another product: http://www.proxdynamics.com/products/pd_100_prs/

better than producing 100 mill plastic coffe cups.

[RichAlgeni]

Honestly Utopiomania, Norway is beautiful, cold..., but beautiful! Norway has many advantages that most other countries don't have. If Norway can't be successful, no country can!

Rich

[utopiomania]

Party, party, over here: have fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKT2t6lH ... e=youtu.be