dhouston wrote: Since January of 2007, businesses as a whole have told Microsoft they have no interest in what Microsoft is now offering when it comes to Operating Systems and they have been sticking with 2000 and XP.
This illustrates one flaw in the hitslink methodology. Linux proponents already know all there is to know about everything under the sun (and beyond the sun) and, thus, have little need to browse the web.
Anyway, here's OS market share by version which thoroughly contradicts your claims. Windows 2000 share is 0.13% while Seven, Vista & XP total 92%. http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operati ... pcustomd=0
Businesses tend to adhere to the if it ain't broke, don't fix it philosophy.
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We replaced our Windows server with an Ubuntu one because the damn thing kept crashing. We've now enjoyed over a year with Ubuntu and not one crash.
Changing the server to Linux was easy because it didn't require teaching our employees sitting at their workstations anything new, they all commented on how much better everything was working though.
Changing their workstations to Linux would meet with more resistance of course because people are afraid of change. Inertia and the fear of the unknown is the reason Windows still dominates the desktop, it's what people know and it's what PCs come preinstalled with. Most people aren't interested enough to try something different.
The indicators are that the market for PCs will diminish - home users will use smartphones, tablets and smart TVs, businesses will move more towards web based systems with servers and terminals.
I think Steve Jobs may well have been right, we're moving into the 'Post-PC era'.
the.weavster wrote:...businesses will move more towards web based systems with servers and terminals.
Hardly a day passes without news of another major security breach or cloudburst. Any company that relies on web based systems is risking its very existence.
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the.weavster wrote:...businesses will move more towards web based systems with servers and terminals.
Hardly a day passes without news of another major security breach or cloudburst. Any company that relies on web based systems is risking its very existence.
Companies can host their own web based system, the security and data is still under their control. The point is the only thing workstations need is a box that runs a browser.
the.weavster wrote:We replaced our Windows server with an Ubuntu one because the damn thing kept crashing. We've now enjoyed over a year with Ubuntu and not one crash.
I've been using a Win Vista Business and now Win7 Business p2p server for about two years, and I only restart it when necessary with updates. I often go well over a month without a restart. I think I have had one, maybe two crashes in that time, and they were both when someone crashed the client pc with a db open. Maybe you had issues with windows that were not related to the OS, but rather the s/w running on it.
Oh, yeah... up to 10 PC's connected at a time, often with several accessing the same two db's at the same time.
Good. I've been waiting for this - as long as I can develop applications for the "Desktop" and for the "Phone", all built in into the one portable system, I'll be a very happy bunny.
The only thing that Ubuntu need to get sorted is a rival to Visual Studio...
dhouston wrote:Anyway, here's OS market share by version which thoroughly contradicts your claims. Windows 2000 share is 0.13% while Seven, Vista & XP total 92%. http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operati ... pcustomd=0
You are showing a link for home users while I am talking about enterprise users.
Best wishes to the PB community. Thank you for the memories.
dhouston wrote:You are showing a link for home users while I am talking about enterprise users.
What alternate universe do you inhabit? Everything I've seen says MS dominates enterprise desktops and servers with Linux dominating public/web servers especially where cost is a major factor. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-App ... It-817939/
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dhouston wrote:What alternate universe do you inhabit? Everything I've seen says MS dominates enterprise desktops and servers with Linux dominating public/web servers especially where cost is a major factor.
I never said, MS didn't dominate the enterprise sector, did I? You are using a classic diversionary tactic and trying to change what I said.
If you actually read what I said, you would have read that I am only talking about Vista, 7 and the forthcoming Windows 8. Please provide information to refute what I said. Do you have any major corporations I can contact that are running Windows 7 and Vista and will be adopting Windows 8 when it is released? When you are in a major corporation or a major business, what OS are you seeing running on their systems?
Best wishes to the PB community. Thank you for the memories.
the.weavster wrote:...businesses will move more towards web based systems with servers and terminals.
Hardly a day passes without news of another major security breach or cloudburst. Any company that relies on web based systems is risking its very existence.
Companies can host their own web based system, the security and data is still under their control. The point is the only thing workstations need is a box that runs a browser.
We've had these for years, if not decades now. They are called Terminals. Even my highschool had them. Just a terminal monitor/keyboard and mouse, connected VIA LAN to a Windows NT server.
What does this have to do with what I said? These links have to do with Linux, not Windows Vista, Windows 7, and the forthcoming Windows 8. Remember my argument is major businesses are using Windows 2000 and Windows XP instead of the nonsense like Windows Vista, Windows 7 and the forthcoming Windows 8 that MS is trying to force onto major businesses.
Best wishes to the PB community. Thank you for the memories.
The market share statistics quoted for Linux on enterprise servers is complete bs because it only counts paid deployments including hardware.
If you do what we did and just download Ubuntu server and install it on a generic box you don't get counted.
Even if you buy commercial server Linux distros like Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Linux Enterprise Server but buy the hardware separately you don't get counted.
Of course you then have to take server virtualization into consideration.
Nobody knows what the real market share for Linux is on enterprise servers but we do know the really big names we encounter everyday - Google, FaceBook, Amazon, Twitter, Intel, IBM all rely on Linux servers as do financial institutions, stock exchanges, etc...
