NS Basic a good number two?

[utopiomania]

but then I'm sure you'd be writing a cross compiler Pure -> NS

No, I wouldn't.

Here's a link to the FAQ

I don't know if it has access to things like the phonebook, or can manipulate SMS objects or not
but it seems exciting enough right now.

[dhouston]

If you are looking for a way to program PDAs, I used CASL 5-6 years ago. It was quite easy to work with but I have no idea what it is like now.

• http://www.caslsoft.com/

OTOH, if you're looking for an alternative to PB, look at Lazarus. It's not Basic but Pascal isn't that difficult and Lazarus is open source plus it runs on a multitude of platforms.

• http://wiki.freepascal.org/Lazarus_Documentation

[utopiomania]

Thanks for the tips, but I am looking for a way to program phones right now. hence my latest
update to my post on NS Basic.

I think phone apps is a very important market for people interested in programming right now.

I'm going next town tomorrow to sign a contract for a new electric city car, and guess what, it has
a 'MindBox' in it, with a GMS/GPS phone in it, communicating with the controller/factory, and you can write apps to access it

Edit:

Wish it could program for this though:


Just ordered one, its a MONSTER in disquise. But is on Symbian.. You can't have it all.

[dhouston]

Wish it could program for this though:

I believe Lazarus works with Qt.

• http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Qt_Interface

[the.weavster]

Wish it could program for this though:
..//..
Just ordered one, its a MONSTER in disquise. But is on Symbian.. You can't have it all.

You can now program Qt very easily just using JavaScript, try Googling 'Qt Quick' or 'QML'. Qt Quick is not just for Symbian and MeeGo either - Linux, Windows, and Mac desktops are also supported. It gets better still - there have been experimental ports of Qt to Android, iOS and Bada, these have been referred to as 'Project Lighthouse', I have read articles stating that with the arrival of Qt V4.8 Project Lighthouse will be graduated to being part of the official Qt ecosystem.

If you are thinking the mobile app market is likely to be more lucrative than desktop or web development you may be interested in this article though: http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/b ... worse.html

Also have a read through some of the threads in the BadaDev forum (Samsung's own platform) quite a few of the devs in there have been pretty honest about the piffling returns they've made.

[utopiomania]

Thanks, Qt Quick looks interesting, but how much does a commercial single-developer
Qt licence cost?

[the.weavster]

Thanks, Qt Quick looks interesting, but how much does a commercial single-developer
Qt licence cost?

You can develop commercial applications for Qt without paying a single sob, Nokia released Qt under the LGPL when they bought out Trolltech. Qt creator is a really nice free IDE too.

Under the terms of the LGPL you can not statically link the Qt libraries but new Symbian phones will have them pre-installed as shared libraries and for older Symbian phones there is an installer available from Nokia as a free download.

Most Qt applications no longer need to be signed either, the user can grant the necessary permissions on install.

[naw]

I seem to remember something called jabaco - a VB6 *syntax-compatible* language that compiles to Java ByteCode - and it's free.
The compiled code runs on multiple platforms (that support Java)

[Rook Zimbabwe]

Jabaco still primitive in handling arays but progresssing slowly:
http://www.jabaco.org/

Last update 1 SEP 2009