Forums moves to phpbb3 on 9. september 2009

[Kale]

I'm sorry but the new forum software makes reading the forums a lot more painful. None of the built in themes are very pretty and/or user friendly. This forum now looks ugly and horrible, unlike the old elegant and simple format. I don't like it. And i personally think it will drive people away. Time will tell.

I totally agree. The default theme is messy. With all themes, it's very hard to read the text. In some places the contrast is less, and everywhere things are cramped together with no space. The font in code tags is too small.

personally, I'm more interested in the information and assistance the community provides; a change to the forum's décor doesn't change that, in my opinion.

So it's not important that you actually read the text without squinting?

I do have quite some difficulties with differentiating blue-in-blue-coloring and various other inconveniences

Me too.

Unfortunately not in the French (1 style) or German forums (2 styles, but subsilver2 is there, so it's ok).
Or am I missing something ?

Yes, the "subsilver2" style isn't actually subsilver2. The colours, fonts and spacing (that's about everything) is different. Less contrast, smaller code font and less spacing makes everything harder to read.

I went through the themes in the theme demo, and the most readable theme is "Envision", except that the code tags are unreadable due to their weak color.
These themes are quite readable too:
fisubice2 (readable even in code tags)
xand (several colours)

Agreed, we need better themes!

[Trond]

Agreed, we need better themes!

Fred (?) fixed the contrast and code font size, so I'm happy with the subsilver theme now. (Yes, it's ugly, but it's readable.)

[netmaestro]

Subsilver2 looks much better today. Actually it's very usable, thanks Fred.

[Fluid Byte]

The default style is now subsilver2, i agree about the constrast and wide screen issues. Also 'code' tag font has been increased for subsilver2 style (to be like the old one).

Probably the best choice you made with the new forum. The "prosilver" theme is really a pain in the ass. You can't read anything without getting a serious headache.

Ah yeah, thanks for the forum update!

[graves]

Hi,
Great forum!
"Log me automatically on each visit" is not running here (windows 7).
why
I've marked "Accept all cookies" on Internet Tools.

[Trond]

graves, delete all cookies from purebasic.fr and purebasic.com (or just delete all cookies) and make sure you use the url www.purebasic.fr/english/ to access the forum.

[Vera]

Hello,
I found out why Subsilver2 makes such an ugly font to me. I compared the stylesheets:

prosilver: (style.css)

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body {
	/* Text-Sizing with ems: http://www.clagnut.com/blog/348/ */
	font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
	color: #828282;
	background-color: #FFFFFF;
->>	/*font-size: 62.5%; This sets the default font size to be equivalent to 10px */
->>	font-size: 10px;
	margin: 0;
	padding: 12px 0;
}

subsilver: (stylesheet.css)

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body {
	/* Text-Sizing with ems: http://www.clagnut.com/blog/348/ */
	font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
	color: #323D4F;
	background-color: #FFFFFF;
->>	font-size: 62.5%; /* This sets the default font size to be equivalent to 10px */
	margin: 0;
}

after I took out the 62,5% and inserted font-size: 10px as well, Subsilver2 shows of as normal again (like old subsilver or the actual unlogged modus or prosilver).

With 100% font-size even the code becomes readable again and I don't have to strain my eyes so hard.
So - would it be possible to change Subsilver2 to 100% font-size as well please.

hoping ~ Vera

[idle]

Well this is different

[graves]

graves, delete all cookies from purebasic.fr and purebasic.com (or just delete all cookies) and make sure you use the url http://www.purebasic.fr/english/ to access the forum.

Thanks, Trond, it runs fine now.

[Vera]

Well this is different

does it mean you don't see a difference between 10px and 6px ?
And were are the fonts suppling a 6.5px size ?

I feel so terribly excluded - i feel so left alone and unheard - not a single reply (to noone) like 'ok - we're still working on - that's not the end yet - don't worry' - nothing - nothing - nothing ~ Is it a 'Live with it or die!' ?

Even the german post-reply has become worse, filled up with useless words and signs (is it to punish 'unmodern users' still having old standard screen width ?). Why couldn't the change have been the other way round and shorten it, so one can see more of the topics - enabling an even better overview ?

before:
Benachrichtigen bei Antworten - EventType Doppel....
Benachrichtigen bei Antworten - EventType Doppel...
Benachrichtigen bei Antworten - EventType Doppel...
now:
Benachrichtigung über neue Antwort --- "EventType ...
Benachrichtigung über neue Antwort --- "EventType ...
Benachrichtigung über neue Antwort --- "EventType ...

the english are well off with only a tiny new: "
Topic reply notificatin - "EventType Doppelklicks"
Topic reply notificatin - "EventType Doppelklicks"
Topic reply notificatin - "EventType Doppelklicks"

Sorry - but I'm so frustrated having lost the ability charing the forums with ease and that there is not a single concession towards those having problems with recognising blue font-color on blue background or the only alternative with scrambled fonts.

~ Vera

[djes]

What is your browser? With Firefox, the 65% is not used, but that instead :

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.postbody {
font-family:"Lucida Grande","Trebuchet MS",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;
font-size:1.3em;
line-height:1.4em;
}

So the font size is in em, resolution dependant.

[Kaeru Gaman]

So the font size is in em, resolution dependant.

hu? ... I got shocked what that would mean...
but I just tested it, the "e" is 7pix high, like in 1920x1080 like in 800x600...

[Vera]

yes it's FF 3.0.10 on Suse 11.1.
The fonts are alright in unlogged-mode or new prefered prosilver. But changing to subsilber 2 (or the other style in the english forum) the fontsize is decreased emmediately to a strange 'inbetween' size showing off strange.
As I never fiddled around with the settings on this OS it should be kind of standard and I can't understand, why the only alterative style cannot supply a standard font-display as well.

~ Vera

[idle]

>Vera Sorry my comment was just surprise, I had forgotten that the forum was being updated.

If your using fire fox can't you just use it's scaling features?

[djes]

So the font size is in em, resolution dependant.

hu? ... I got shocked what that would mean...
but I just tested it, the "e" is 7pix high, like in 1920x1080 like in 800x600...

The em gives a proportional value (based on the parent element), and is scalable, it is not fixed.