Which is the best tool for RAD?

[thanos]

http://www.jabaco.org/ <--- a Java VB like clone. Can convert most any VB6 source code.

Thank you for the recommendation.
I found this software at the end of November of 2008, just a few days after its circulation.
It is very interesting but it is a project which started before a few months and i do not know its future or the plans of its developer.
Plus, unfortunately my knowledge in Java is very very limited.
Regards.

Thanos

[thanos]

Unfortunately, i do not like very much the Pascal's syntax but nothing is perfect.

I completely agree, even simple things like If... Then... Else... gets messy if there's multiple options. I wish there was an alternative version of Delphi that used BASIC.

It would be the eighth wonder of the world

[garretthylltun]

http://www.jabaco.org/ <--- a Java VB like clone. Can convert most any VB6 source code.

Plus, unfortunately my knowledge in Java is very very limited.

You don't need to know Java, just need to know VB6, unless you try to do something beyond what Jabaco can do, then you might need to dig into some java.

[Intrigued]

Actually it does, SQLite is used as the database feature. Which transacts very quickly. It's not for enterprise level applications though. But, there is a plugin out for ODBC as well.

Thanks a lot. I did not saw it.

Plus you get FTP, standalone editor, command-line support, and plenty of plugins, etc., etc., and standalone assemblies to use that others have created.

I downloaded the demo and i "played" with it a little. It seems like an interesting project but the produced executables are a little bit bloatwares.

I'd recommend a closer inspection, it seems you may have just glanced it over on first sight.

I will. As you write it is "not for enterprise level applications" but it is interesting. To my opinion, a disadvantage is its high price ($395 for a single developer license).
Regards.

Thanos

The size of the .exe is bigger that PBs... plugins are included, etc. But, I find that even a MB or so more is just about non-issue, even when users are downloading... as most have High-Speed connections. Dial-up... well, it's an extra, maybe, five (5) minutes per MB... so tag on 5 to 7.5 minutes or so for those dialup accounts. (for others reading this... I still totally see the value in a comprehensive package that is PureBasic, the speed, the cross-platform, the support here, the ability to create .dlls, etc. Just an awesome product).

I made 1000s with my investment, totally offsetting that intial fee (which was in 2003!) I've only paid once, thanks to getting three version for free do to my participation in the Beta programs they have. Also, I have found I.R. (this is not official) is pretty easy going group. They do not seem harsh on folks that would like to install on another system they may have. They understand folks typically have a desktop and perhaps a laptop for on the road.

I hope that helps your decision making.

[kobolds]

I working as programmer for years and using alot tools from time to time .
if you want great RAD tools , I suggest windev . even though it's pricy but it worth the price . visual studio 2008 is good (the express version is free) but I not recommend to use it on big project . things become can become very ugly and unstable .

if you working on enterprise level of project , I suggest to use powerbuilder . using pb for small program become very troublesome and waste of time.

if you using RB for linux enviroment, I suggest that you dump it (too expensive and not worth it) and try gambas . I used to use RB for 3 years and I gaveup last year and move to gambas .
just take a look at gambas offer more functionality ( and free) compare to the pricy RB with limited function (plus RB not support 64 bit).
the regular update that RB offer , mostly is just bugs fix (yes you pay people to clean their own shit).
just take a look at their site for they price version comparison .


here my summary
1. windev -> if you doing alone on small and medium project relate with database ,inventory, reporting .
2. Powerbuilder - > if you working on huge project with alot people . the object share is very powerfull .
3. visual studio -> small, medium , big project . best with connect with others MS products
4. gambas - > for linux and something like vb also free.

[thanos]

I working as programmer for years and using alot tools from time to time .
if you want great RAD tools , I suggest windev . even though it's pricy but it worth the price . visual studio 2008 is good (the express version is free) but I not recommend to use it on big project . things become can become very ugly and unstable .

if you working on enterprise level of project , I suggest to use powerbuilder . using pb for small program become very troublesome and waste of time.

if you using RB for linux enviroment, I suggest that you dump it (too expensive and not worth it) and try gambas . I used to use RB for 3 years and I gaveup last year and move to gambas .
just take a look at gambas offer more functionality ( and free) compare to the pricy RB with limited function (plus RB not support 64 bit).
the regular update that RB offer , mostly is just bugs fix (yes you pay people to clean their own shit).
just take a look at their site for they price version comparison .


here my summary
1. windev -> if you doing alone on small and medium project relate with database ,inventory, reporting .
2. Powerbuilder - > if you working on huge project with alot people . the object share is very powerfull .
3. visual studio -> small, medium , big project . best with connect with others MS products
4. gambas - > for linux and something like vb also free.

Thank you for this post!
It is very helpful for me.
Before two years, i tried a demo version of WinDev (ver 10) but i did not master it
I never used the PowerBuilder.
Last week i did install the Gambas on Ubuntu and i start to play with it. It is very interesting project.
Regards.

Thanos