OK...I AM CONFUSED!!!!

HarryO · Post by **HarryO** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 9:56 pm

I see 2 threads on this forum and both seem to be about using the editor
Scintilla (?sp?). Is this 2 different efforts or 2 people working on the same project? Can someone please explain?

HarryO

eddy · Post by **eddy** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 10:34 pm

SCintilla is a new gadget which is more powerful and easier than the richedit gadget.
PB IDE will use this gadget.
It needs a external DLL.

Scintilla will add some new features :
- auto-completion
- function folding
- etc....

fsw · Post by **fsw** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 11:00 pm

HarryO,
AFAIK PSW32 picked up the original SciTe editor and tweaked it for purebasic.
I don't know if he is changing the preference/setting files or if he is also tweaking the C++ code itself.

GPI started to play with the Scintilla engine and coded code in PureBasic that uses Scintilla, and so did I (didn't know somebody else had some free time...).
But I have to admit, that GPI's code is far more advanced (using the Scintilla DLL) that I am with my code (I suppose he doesn't sleep at all

).

GPI is getting along nicely, and because his Scintilla functions are done (now he's implementing stuff that he likes to see in an editor ) I suppose that the upcoming Schintilla Editor for PureBasic written in PureBasic will come from GPI's Scintilla code.
But this shouldn't stop PSW32 from doing what he is working on...
I already use GPI's Include Files, because he already switched from SendMessage_(...) to CallFunctionFast(...) ( should be faster ).
He is so nice that he shares his code with the community and I've already learned a lot, because he did things a lot different than I did in my code.

Hope I didn't

you to much.

fsw · Post by **fsw** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 11:13 pm

eddy wrote:SCintilla is a new gadget which is more powerful and easier than the richedit gadget.
PB IDE will use this gadget.
It needs a external DLL.

Scintilla will add some new features :
- auto-completion
- function folding
- etc....

Sorry Eddy don't know what you are talking ...

Scintilla is NOT A GADGET. ( As long Fred didn't incorporate it in the PureBasic GUI Toolkit )
It's an Editor Library with the functions you mentioned written from some folks (not PureBasic users) in C++ and it's available for Windows and Linux.

If you saw some code here in the forum that uses a command like:
SciEditGadget(hwndParent,x,y,w,h)
it's because GPI named it this way - not because it's a new Gadget provided by PureBasic.

tinman · Post by **tinman** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 11:51 pm

eddy wrote:PB IDE will use this gadget.

The official PB editor (at least 3.70) will not be using Scintilla.

Edwin Knoppert · Post by **Edwin Knoppert** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 7:26 am

Folding is terrible imo.
It's a new thingy but at the end not usefull.

LarsG · Post by **LarsG** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:59 am

I think function/procedure folding is a great thing...
It makes the code easier to read...
At least when you're certain that the function or procedure is "finished" and you're not gong to change it (in a while

)...

-Lars

blueb · Post by **blueb** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 2:23 pm

Visually folding seems great, but you still have to wade through various procedures to see if what you needed was in that particular folded procedure.

--blueb

GedB · Post by **GedB** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 3:21 pm

I think a good outliner on a side bar beats folding anytime.

HarryO · Post by **HarryO** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 4:11 pm

Thanks everyone.... It's as clear as mud! NO - Just kidding..

I think I understand. I am trying/using Peter's version of the editor and seems to work just fine.

Jury still out on the 'Folding' versus 'Outlining'.

HarryO

GPI · Post by **GPI** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 4:24 pm

Edwin Knoppert wrote:Folding is terrible imo.
It's a new thingy but at the end not usefull.

Nobody said, that you MUST use it. I give you only the possibility to DO this. When the fold-state (open/closed) is saved with the Source-Code and not automatic close all on load, it is a great Tool.

Edwin Knoppert · Post by **Edwin Knoppert** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 4:28 pm

How could i know this heh?

Therefore my remark..

Magi · Post by **Magi** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 7:55 pm

GedB wrote:I think a good outliner on a side bar beats folding anytime.

Anybody have an example of a "good outliner"?

Marc

fsw · Post by **fsw** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:22 pm

Magi wrote:
GedB wrote:I think a good outliner on a side bar beats folding anytime.
Anybody have an example of a "good outliner"?

Marc

If I would know what this is

Edwin Knoppert · Post by **Edwin Knoppert** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 8:14 am

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