common courtesy

PB · Post by PB » Thu May 22, 2003 8:01 am

> is it not a custom to give credit to the author?

Yes, that's customary to do, unless the author says you can do whatever
you want with it. If in any doubt, give credit to the author. But make sure
you're allowed to use their code, otherwise copyright infringement occurs.

> i mean, if i make changes to someone else's code
> and post it here, should i not mention the original aothor?

Yes, you should. People who don't are either losers or accidentally forgot.
If they forgot, they should edit their post when the fact is pointed out to them.

Hi-Toro · Post by **Hi-Toro** » Thu May 22, 2003 9:46 am

The original post was a little misleading (I thanked Geoff in that thread!), but I would give Geoff the benefit of the doubt in that he probably just overlooked it. I'd just like to say that I appreciate the work, Tejon, and updated my copy of the source with your name at the top so that I can credit you if I ever use it.

You'll find most people WILL give credit for code used, so please don't be put off by this (I was actually searching on the forums yesterday to see if there was any other code you had posted because I liked that 'double' code so much). Your work IS appreciated!

tejon · Post by **tejon** » Thu May 22, 2003 11:29 pm

thanks Hi-Toro, i appreciate that.

the fact that it misled you into thinking geoff was the author
makes my point, it makes him look like the author, and me a
contributor.
what set me off was that he deleted my original post, since it
was brought over from the other forum and was under 'backuser'

Manolo · Post by **Manolo** » Fri May 23, 2003 8:32 am

tejon wrote:thanks Hi-Toro, i appreciate that.
the fact that it misled you into thinking geoff was the author
makes my point, it makes him look like the author, and me a
contributor.
what set me off was that he deleted my original post, since it
was brought over from the other forum and was under 'backuser'

Ok Tejon. All happy. Another bug 'fixed' from change to new forum.
ByBy.
Manolo

tejon · Post by **tejon** » Fri May 23, 2003 12:13 pm

everything is not OK, seem's that the forum moderators don't
care about my post being plagiarized and deleted.
i have implement a 'eval' procedure, and was going to post it
in the forums, but now i have serious doubt about releasing it.

PS. i have decided to leave the forums, i can not be part
of a community that will stand idle when something like
this happens.
i belive PB is a nice product, bought 2 copies (last copy was
in support for PB and Fred), and will robably continue to use it.

so long.

wcardoso · Post by **wcardoso** » Fri May 23, 2003 12:49 pm

Ok,Ok, I think first at all, we must to include in our source files something like: "Thanks to Fred and his great PureBasic compiles!", or "Thanks to the great PureBasic community and his forum!" or some other generic sentences. All we had learned from someone in this forum and in my case I admit it, then is ridiculous force "copyright" text in the source code if someone base his code in our own code.
If someone need satisfy his ego then donÂ´t publish here, make shareware or commercial software and reclaim copyright for this. Period

Post by **freak** » Fri May 23, 2003 12:50 pm

I don't understand, why you blame the moderators for that.
All we can do is manage existing Posts, we can't get back your
Post, if it was lost during the forum change.
I even don't know which post exactly you are talking about.

So please calm down. What is the big problem of reposting your code?
I can't restore the post, so just post it again, and we can all live
happily ever after

Timo

tejon · Post by **tejon** » Fri May 23, 2003 12:56 pm

fair enough freak, good by all.

tinman · Post by **tinman** » Fri May 23, 2003 1:08 pm

freak wrote:And don't even think of posting some 'eval' code here!! :evil:
I don't tell you this as a moderator, but as a guy that likes to help
others: If you do such a thing, you won't get any friends here, and
believe me, nobody will help you anymore, or even try some of your
sourcecodes.

Have I missed something? It sounded like tejon has written a procedure which evaluates mathematical expressions.

The offending topic is here viewtopic.php?t=5705

If geoff is a forum administrator, which I assume he must be to be able to edit other people's posts, then I don't think he (or anyone else) should change other peoples posts unless they break forum terms and conditions, or unless requested by the author of the post (or required by law). Is is really necessary to save forum space? I haven't seen that reason applied to any other posts, including the exceedingly long and pointless topics.

El_Choni · Post by **El_Choni** » Fri May 23, 2003 1:13 pm

And don't even think of posting some 'eval' code here!!

Freak, did you really understand what he meant? Anyway, tejon, I don't think you should make a big issue of this. If your old post is lost, you can post it again. We all appreciate your contributions to the forum.

Post by **Berikco** » Fri May 23, 2003 1:30 pm

tinman wrote: Have I missed something? It sounded like tejon has written a procedure which evaluates mathematical expressions.

The offending topic is here viewtopic.php?t=5705

If geoff is a forum administrator, which I assume he must be to be able to edit other people's posts, then I don't think he (or anyone else) should change other peoples posts unless they break forum terms and conditions, or unless requested by the author of the post (or required by law). Is is really necessary to save forum space? I haven't seen that reason applied to any other posts, including the exceedingly long and pointless topics.

No, geoff is not a forum administrator or moderator, he can't edit other ppl's posts, unless he know's there login/password

We don't delete posts for forum space, most changes we done so far is adding the code tags to old posts in tips and tricks section

Administrators: Fred
Moderators: Fred, Berikco, PB, Leigh, Freak and Danilo

Post by **freak** » Fri May 23, 2003 1:41 pm

> Have I missed something? It sounded like tejon has written a procedure which evaluates mathematical expressions.

Damn missreading on my part, sorry. I somehow read 'evil', and thought
hew wanted to paste some bad code, so everybody who uses it get's in trouble.

tejon: Sorry, for that think, was not intended.

Note to self: better read all posts twice

Timo

Post by **Berikco** » Fri May 23, 2003 1:42 pm

@tejon
A included the current source in your original post.
PLZ mail me the code you modified to include in that post. change as you like and i will replace it in your original post.
benny@zeb.be

@nobody or anybody
I see some ppl misunderstood each other here, i think not all are native englisch, so i think its best to relax a little all

Rgards,

Post by **Fred** » Fri May 23, 2003 1:56 pm

I can confirm than only the moderators and administrators can delete/modify a post and geoff is none of them. So it should be something wrong somewhere.

@Tejon: If you think there is something I can do, just let me know, here or by email.

Take care,

Cor · Post by **Cor** » Fri May 23, 2003 2:10 pm

Yes, relax don't get to fast heated.

Live is so short.

My opinion:
If you want to help other coders with your great example?
please submit your code, no copyrights
other coders must then be able to use it everywhere even in commercial programs.
Notice of the original would be nice but not neccesarry.
Could you imagine if you use 50 snippets from other coders, the list would be very large, and not manageable.

If you don't want your code be used in shareware or other programs
don't submit code

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