another view on vista

Tipperton · Post by **Tipperton** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:50 pm

pdwyer wrote:My ideal OS would have an option for every bell and whistle that even vista desgners could think of but on a default installation NONE of them would be installed so you can have a really light bare bones & lean OS but no limits on what you can install if you want it.

As I recall the Windows 9x/ME installs were like that, most things were turned on by default but you *could* turn them off by doing a custom install.

The Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista installers never had a custom option. You installed whatever M$ wanted installed, but you can go to Add/Remove Programs then Add/Remove Windows components which will allow you to remove some things.

pdwyer wrote:I never tried this http://www.litepc.com/xplite.html but I really like the idea

I have, it is nice, but again, you have to install M$ default crap first, then use this program to clean up afterwards.

the.weavster · Post by **the.weavster** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:52 pm

In it's history England has been invaded by Germanic tribes, Romans, Vikings and Normans and each have left their impact on the language. Other words have also been introduced into English from former colonies e.g. Pyjamas from India.

I saw a documentary about this recently and I'd never really considered it before.

It's quite interesting how words derived from Latin or French are polite and the equivalent Anglo-Saxon word is considered coarse e.g.
vagina -> c**t
copulate -> f**k
Excrement -> s**t

Place names that have the suffix 'ham' were originally farms, apparently this originates from Norse. There is another suffix that means the same thing but originates from another language (both escape me now).

Although animal names are usually Anglo-Saxon the name of their meat is often derived from French e.g.
Pig -> Pork
Cow -> Beef

Schadenfreude (is that how you spell it?) is a recent import which you hear quite often now.

I don't think we're nearly so delicate and precious about our language as some other nationalities and are quite happy to let it evolve and absorb new words or even for existing words to transform and take on new meanings.

mrjiles · Post by **mrjiles** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:55 pm

Tipperton wrote: I have, it is nice, but again, you have to install M$ default crap first, then use this program to clean up afterwards.

Check out nlite: http://www.nliteos.com/.

mrjiles · Post by **mrjiles** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:57 pm

the.weavster wrote:I don't think we're nearly so delicate and precious about our language as some other nationalities and are quite happy to let it evolve and absorb new words or even for existing words to transform and take on new meanings.

And so begins the history of Ebonics...

pdwyer · Post by **pdwyer** » Tue May 20, 2008 1:59 am

mrjiles wrote:
Tipperton wrote: I have, it is nice, but again, you have to install M$ default crap first, then use this program to clean up afterwards.

Check out nlite: http://www.nliteos.com/.

Cheers, I'm going to have a play with that on vmware to see how it works. looks good and they've just added SP3 support

ricardo · Post by **ricardo** » Tue May 20, 2008 4:23 am

So, if i understand well this thread, the conclusion is that the OS was first that any german egg or chicken (that is maybe a latin word), right?

Is good to learn something new every day

*Just kidding, its late here

blueznl · Post by **blueznl** » Tue May 20, 2008 7:48 am

Kaeru Gaman wrote:are you american?

'coutier' is french, new-amsterdam is a netherland rooted city-name.

and it's not "english" but "american" words you mean.
they are imported into american, because of the german settlers.
they are not known in english.

english has some imported german words like "kindergarden",
aslike french has "le weekend".

I fear someone didn't get the joke...