game intro:movie-support without the need to install a codec

SofT MANiAC · Post by **SofT MANiAC** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:37 am

Subj - What do you think about?

Our Product is commercial - It is possible to use only freeware technologies...

MPEG-1? ... ?

inc. · Post by **inc.** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:07 am

You can use every codec wich comes installed per default in the given operating system. In Windows WMV for instance or something similair.
But more recent codec technologies do need higher CPU capacities, so keep this in mind if you do think about intro movie sizes like 640x480 or so.

SofT MANiAC · Post by **SofT MANiAC** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:13 am

inc. wrote:You can use every codec wich comes installed per default in the given operating system. In Windows WMV for instance or something similair.

What about license?

WMV not royalty-free... IMHO

Kaeru Gaman · Post by **Kaeru Gaman** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:32 am

you don't need to ship the codec with your product, it's shipped with XP.
just use it encoding your video, it will be on the destination machine when playing the video, because it's included with XP.

....and there are other ways.
e.g. "Silent Hunter II" asked for installing QuickTime to play the Intro video...

Violet · Post by **Violet** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:17 pm

...with X² - The Thread Windows Media Runtime Enviroment is shipped. So I think there should be redistributable Version... But that is not what you wanted I think ^^"

AVI is also a codec that is supported from the beginning. Depends on which platform you want do the software. Windows -> WMV, what else?

Kaeru Gaman · Post by **Kaeru Gaman** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:20 pm

AVI is no codec but a container....

SofT MANiAC · Post by **SofT MANiAC** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:14 pm

Kaeru Gaman wrote:AVI is no codec but a container....

Yep

Ok, I'll try WMV...

Tnx to all!

THCM · Post by **THCM** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:13 am

Have a look here: http://www.radgametools.com/

Bink Video! creates excuteable videos with nice quality and you can display them with RunProgram. If you don't mind a small commercial at the end of the movie, bink is free.

SofT MANiAC · Post by **SofT MANiAC** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:51 am

THCM wrote:Have a look here: http://www.radgametools.com/

Bink Video! creates excuteable videos with nice quality and you can display them with RunProgram. If you don't mind a small commercial at the end of the movie, bink is free.

I came there... I searching for real free ideas

Rescator · Post by **Rescator** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:08 am

Ogg Theora http://www.theora.org/

Free, open source, no license, no patent issue, commercial use etc allowed.

SofT MANiAC · Post by **SofT MANiAC** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:52 pm

Rescator wrote:Ogg Theora http://www.theora.org/

it's good solve... but how to use it for PureBasic? without the need to install a codec

Rescator · Post by **Rescator** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:36 pm

A dll maybe or similar?
If for some reason you do not want a dll floating around but a single exe I guess you could binary include it, save it out to the user's temp folder and load it from there.

But if the app is going to be installed on a system anyway then I see no issue with a dll along with the exe file.

If you are lucky there might be some windows builds of Ogg Theora already.

SofT MANiAC · Post by **SofT MANiAC** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:00 pm

Rescator wrote:A dll maybe or similar?
If for some reason you do not want a dll floating around but a single exe I guess you could binary include it, save it out to the user's temp folder and load it from there.

But if the app is going to be installed on a system anyway then I see no issue with a dll along with the exe file.

If you are lucky there might be some windows builds of Ogg Theora already.

I will try to use the libtheora.dll...

SofT MANiAC · Post by **SofT MANiAC** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:43 pm

dark wood

it's really hard task

yoxola · Post by **yoxola** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:46 pm

WMV's license looks vague, however as I know many Japanese Windows games using it without additional cost, despite the WMV codec runtime requirement, it's the only easy/high-quality solution.

As to Theora, I don't know how to efficiently converting YUV to PB's RGBA (I know some code, but mostly patented).....