Intrested to buy, have question

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:08 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Mag.

My question is:
1. What size of simple hello.exe with debug disable?
2. Is PB support this
a)Menu
b)Toolbar
c)Tabber
d)Label
e)Button
f)Check Button
g)Option Button
h)Text field
g)Multi text field (can control RTF format or not?)
h)Listbox
i)Combobox
j)TreeView
k)HTML Viewer
l)ProgressBar
m)A lot of Requesters
3.Is the document fully documented? I can't find build-in ASM in document.(not detail on asm command. why? Is it really similer with other assembler?)
4.Can I create some kind of text editor for PB using PB? Can I control all text color and so on?
5.How fast I can get my program if I order online?
6.What is the size of its download program that I buy online.
7.Did PB has some kind of key. Or I can install on any computer that I have anytime anywhere.
8.How do I get upgrade. It's free or have to pay extra charges?

This one first..
I don't want people to stare at me

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BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 11:00 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Voldemort.

To print 'hello' at the console: 6.03 KB (6,176 bytes).

PureBasic supports all the gadgets that you asked. (Fred, perhaps http://www.purebasic.com should have a screenshot of the Visual Designer so people can see which gadgets are supported?).

There is no built-in ASM documentation because PureBasic is a BASIC language, not ASM, but you can use ASM directly in your sources. It uses FASM as its compiler, so you can use any FASM assembler commands as part of your source code.

You can create your own text editors with PureBasic (with color, etc).

You will receive PureBasic within 24 hours of ordering. Its size will be around 4 MB to download. There is a key, but you can use PureBasic on as many PCs as required. All updates are FREE.

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 11:13 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by freak.

Hello Mag,

1. A simple 'Hello World' Requester takes 4Kb as exe size.
2.

a)Menu -> yes
b)Toolbar -> yes
c)Tabber -> what is this? maybe it is supported with a different name?
d)Label -> yes
e)Button -> yes
f)Check Button -> yes
g)Option Button -> yes
h)Text field -> yes
g)Multi text field (can control RTF format or not?)
-> Windows only, with a special flag
-> RTF is supported by a User-made Lib
h)Listbox -> yes
i)Combobox -> yes
j)TreeView -> yes
k)HTML Viewer -> yes
l)ProgressBar -> yes
m)A lot of Requesters -> dunno what 'a lot' is for you, but there are some

3. No ASM help included, FASM is used, you can get it's help here:
http://fasm.sourceforge.net/

4. With a Richedit Conrtol, yes. You will find the Richedit User Lib here: http://www.reelmediaproductions.com/pb/ ... chedit.zip

5. a couple of days maybe, i don't know, didn't order online

6. 4 MB

7. The PB license is User-based. This means you can use it on as much Computers as you have (home, work, wherever...). It is just a license for 1 user.

8. Every update for free, forever!!!!!
(guys who bought v1.00 still get v3.62 for free, and that is not going to change)

Hope this helps...

Timo

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:22 pm

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Kale.

I think i remember reading that a fully featured edit gadget is planned for a later release complete with syntax highlighting

--Kale

In love with PureBasic!

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:24 pm

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by LJ.

You write:
"c)Tabber -> what is this? maybe it is supported with a different name?"

I think he means the Panel Gadget. It has tabs across the top and as you click on each tab it changes the big square area underneath.

Yes Mag, there is a "Tabber" gadget.

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:36 pm

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Mag.

Thanks guys for the fast respon. I really mean to buy... but some more quiz ;(
Hope you all not an***. I'm totally new to PB. Answer only if you have time!!!

>>You can create your own text editors with PureBasic (with color, etc).
Did you mean multi-color (every text we can set own unique color if we want: syntax highlighting purpose)

>> -> Windows only, with a special flag
What do you mean? I can't understand. Is that mean, multi line text is not a gadget in PB?

>>There is a key
Could you tell me what key is that? Is that a key for allow upgrade?

Another question:
1.Some multi-line text field only can put about 64k data. How about the one that PB have?
2.Is this true? EXE created by PB really don't need any dll or other file in all condition.
3.PB can do 3d program using ORGE. My question is: Is this ORGE fast and stable. And the most important it's free or not? I try a sample 3d program in PB demo but the program split the image by 2 part. And the whole picture is a tone of green.Look like a bug?
4.How seldom the upgrade and bug repair made by author. In summerize, Once a month? Once a week?
5.And last question. Its quite sinsitive (war-like). But take it easy (I hope). I also hear about PowerBasic. Its look like powerfull (But the price is so high). No download to try. Any comment between PowerBasic and PureBasic?

Thank again guys..

Bye

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BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 5:40 pm

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Mag.

>> I think i remember reading that a fully featured edit gadget is planned for a later release complete with syntax highlighting

So latest version of PB cannot do syntax highlighting in multi-text box?

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BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:10 pm

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Voldemort.

>>You can create your own text editors with PureBasic (with color, etc).
Did you mean multi-color (every text we can set own unique color if we want: syntax highlighting purpose)

Yes, I meant multi-color. The PureBasic editor itself is written in PureBasic.

>> -> Windows only, with a special flag
What do you mean? I can't understand. Is that mean, multi line text is not a gadget in PB?

For a textbox to be multi-line in PureBasic you just need to add some simple flags to its definition. No extra lines of code needed. It's very easy, see here: viewtopic.php?t=4875

>>There is a key
Could you tell me what key is that? Is that a key for allow upgrade?

I'll let Fred answer this one...

1.Some multi-line text field only can put about 64k data. How about the one that PB have?

I think it's unlimited (I've never used a text field with more than 64k of data). But as I said, the PureBasic editor itself is written in PureBasic, and it can load source codes of more than 64k, so I assume it's unlimited.

2.Is this true? EXE created by PB really don't need any dll or other file in all condition.

TRUE.

Your exe can be taken to another PC and run from there with NO installation required, or runtimes, or DLLs, etc.

3.PB can do 3d program using ORGE.

I don't program games so I can't answer this one.

Any comment between PowerBasic and PureBasic?

PureBasic is better. Updates and support are FREE. PowerBasic updates/support aren't.

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Sun Mar 23, 2003 8:07 pm

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Kale.

Did you mean multi-color (every text we can set own unique color if we want: syntax highlighting purpose)
Yes there is a Rich Text 3rd party gadget

Windows only, with a special flag
What do you mean? I can't understand. Is that mean, multi line text is not a gadget in PB?
The Rich Text gadget is an add-on only for windows (i think). Purebasic also supports another text gadget that can be multi line but doesn't offer as many features. A new editorGadget is planned for later release.

2.Is this true? EXE created by PB really don't need any dll or other file in all condition.
yes in all conditions except when you use the 'module' library to play .mod, .xm etc.. then you'll need the midas.dll and also when you use the 3D engine then there are 2 .dll's needed and also when you use the webgadget then you need the Atl.dll

3.PB can do 3d program using ORGE. My question is: Is this ORGE fast and stable. And the most important it's free or not? I try a sample 3d program in PB demo but the program split the image by 2 part. And the whole picture is a tone of green.Look like a bug?
The 3D engine is provided by Ogre http://ogre.sourceforge.net/ its extremely stable and yes FREE!

the 3d command set will be expanded with future versions.

4.How seldom the upgrade and bug repair made by author. In summerize, Once a month? Once a week?
roughly once every 2/3 months or very quickly if big bugs are spotted.

5.And last question. Its quite sinsitive (war-like). But take it easy (I hope). I also hear about PowerBasic. Its look like powerfull (But the price is so high). No download to try. Any comment between PowerBasic and PureBasic?
Yeah dont bother with Powerbasic

you can do everything you want with Purebasic.

--Kale

In love with PureBasic!

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:56 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by freak.

About the Key:
There is a keyfile that comes with your copy when you buy, this allows you to update.
It will always be installed, when you install PB, so you don't need to worry about it.
All is handled automatically, this is just to make the update system a bit saver.

About TextBox size:
The control itself has no limit, but the PB String management has. Currently only 64k can be put into one string. This is going to change in the future.

Timo

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:44 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by ricardo.

5.And last question. Its quite sinsitive (war-like). But take it easy (I hope). I also hear about PowerBasic. Its look like powerfull (But the price is so high). No download to try. Any comment between PowerBasic and PureBasic?

I own both: PureBasic and PowerBasic.

Power is great too, but its much complicated. Just let me tell you that im using daily Pure and Power... i dont use it.
If i have to choose betwen one of them, without any question i will choose PureBasic.

Buy it, its the best purchase if you want to code.

Best Regards

Ricardo

Dont cry for me Argentina...

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:59 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Mag.

Ok I order it last night but they return 2 email for me.
1. Say that it will process in about 2/3 days
2. Say that they refuse my application

Both of it is computer generated email. Is that mean my order is not accepted. My credit card seem to be no problem. I buy something from Share-It a few week ago but no problem. Of cource I have money on that

Or is that mean I have to wait for 2/3 days like state in first email?

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BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:38 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by PB.

> Ok I order it last night but they return 2 email for me.
> 1. Say that it will process in about 2/3 days
> 2. Say that they refuse my application

You should e-mail Fred immediately and ask what happened ([url]mailto:alphasnd@purebasic.com[/url]).

When I originally ordered PureBasic, I had the month/year swapped for the expiry date
on my credit card, and it was also declined. It's a simple mistake to do... perhaps
you did the same thing?

BackupUser · Post by **BackupUser** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:23 am

Restored from previous forum. Originally posted by Mag.

>> perhaps you did the same thing?

No. Every thing is fill correctlly. I double check. But nevermind, I already email Fred and wait what he say... May be I should also call my bank!

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