Website Creating Software

abc123 · Post by **abc123** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:58 pm

Looking for a software that creates professional websites, can anyone recommend a software?

Num3 · Post by **Num3** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:01 pm

Freeware
NVU
http://www.nvu.com/index.php

Commercial
Dreamweaver

http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver/

rsts · Post by **rsts** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:09 pm

Me too + I've been looking for software that creates professional programs, but all I've found seem to require some user intervention of some sort.

cheers

J. Baker · Post by **J. Baker** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:38 pm

I've tried just about all of them over the years. I prefer http://www.namo.com/ . You can find it on ebay for pretty cheap.

god64 · Post by **god64** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:03 am

i also tried several over the years, including nvu, dreamweaver, golive, frontpage but ended up with this little fella:

http://vim.sourceforge.net/

just learn html, it's not so hard, you'll save yourself some money and nerves and the world some ugly autogenerated bad html code

codemaniac · Post by **codemaniac** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:37 am

abc123 wrote:Looking for a software that creates professional websites, can anyone recommend a software?

Sure, Image-Line's EZGENERATOR is really the best!
http://www.ezgenerator.com/

akj · Post by **akj** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:13 pm

You could visit http://www.freeserifsoftware.com and try the free WebPlus 6. The latest paid-for version is 10 from http://www.serif.com

garretthylltun · Post by **garretthylltun** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:43 pm

god64 wrote:i also tried several over the years, including nvu, dreamweaver, golive, frontpage but ended up with this little fella:

http://vim.sourceforge.net/

just learn html, it's not so hard, you'll save yourself some money and nerves and the world some ugly autogenerated bad html code

If you already know html, then what's the point of even using vim? just use whatever local text editor that comes with the OS you're using.

BTW, if you're running on OS X, then try RapidWeaver located at: http://www.realmacsoftware.com/rapidweaver/ costs about $49 USD

neotoma · Post by **neotoma** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:07 pm

Here is another free one (my actual favorite) : DFM2HTML.

It is free and has lot of effects and goodies......

Mike

god64 · Post by **god64** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:26 am

garretthylltun wrote:If you already know html, then what's the point of even using vim? just use whatever local text editor that comes with the OS you're using.

yeah, like notepad or what?

the point of using vim is, that it is a mighty html editor, with syntax hilighting, auto identing, folding, autocompletion, regular expression based search & replace, macros, ... name any feature a editor can have, vim has it. Yes, there are editors out there, that have a few of that features, but at least windows comes with none as default

and none can match the overall editing speed of vim.... oh boy, now i am waiting for the xemacs warriors :roll:

chen · Post by **chen** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:07 am

If you dont want to be involved with HTML, CSS...

http://www.virtualmechanics.com $49 USD
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com $35 USD

bembulak · Post by **bembulak** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:44 am

http://qixite.sourceforge.net/ - multiplattform offline CMS, that saves into XML instead of a DB. Like it a lot. Works on Windows and Linux.

http://www.makercms.org/
CMS written in Python. Also recommended.

KarLKoX · Post by **KarLKoX** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:54 pm

SPIP : i never coded a website but i used it to make a professional website, it is a little hard to understand some concepts at the beginning but it is a very usefull tool to make a full featured pro website, optimisations included.

Rescator · Post by **Rescator** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:50 pm

If you want to make a professional website yourself there is no easy tool to use.
You really need to know the HTML and CSS standards and some scripting language (PHP is the most popular) to take advantage of templates to help make a site look more uniform. (you could use SSI, ServerSide Includes, but it's not as widespread as PHP and tend to be server specific)

As some mentioned above, a good text editor with HTML, CSS and PHP and Javascript syntax highlighting is a nice way to do it.

Myself I use PSPAD http://www.pspad.com/ but there is several similar (and also free) editors which are equally good, just find one that feels ok for your coding style.

Website Generators I don't like, although they do allow you to edit the html directly with syntax highlighting, they are more geared towards a click-drag-drop mentality.
and it is not uncommon to see multiple font/text size declaration inside each other or around empty spaces. Lots of code junk.
And they got their wn quirks and standard ways of doing stuff that may clash with javascript and layouts that you try to do, add in some PHP into that mix and you have to bee damn good with the tool to avoid issues.

Assuming you are a "ok" PureBasic coder allready, I advice to just learn HTML and CSS and later some basic PHP and MySQL to do templates and dynamic content etc.

Sure it's more work, but the control you gain is well worth it.

http://EmSai.net/ is coded fully in PSPAD, using HTML 4.01, CSS (mostly CSS 1 stuff) and some PHP for the template and cache system and chatting wit the MySQL database that has the journal entries stored.
It's nothing ground breaking, but it's functional, tight/clean site, standards compliant, and pretty modular (menus are dynamically generated thanks to some cool PHP code I did).

Another benefit is you can start with something basic and advance the site as your skills advance. Using a Generator you are limited to what it can do , rather than limited to what you can do. A Generator also somewhat, wats the word... locks you in to that product, so jumping ship to another generator means you gotta re-learn from scratch almost.

If you really wish to use a generator of sorts, then wait until you know the basics of HTML and CSS etc. So you are at least able to fix the stupid things some of those generators tend to do at times.

Most pro's if they use a generator, they use it for drafts only or quick mockups to show clients. Then they code it by hand (using a syntax highlighter usually)

If you ever see a "pro" web design company using a generator for their finished work (choose View Source on pages they make), look for a different company is my advice.

codemaniac · Post by **codemaniac** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:05 pm

abc123 wrote:Looking for a software that creates professional websites, can anyone recommend a software?

A program can't make a professional website unless you design one

I think abc123 is looking for templates, or for a program with templates to choose from, if that is the case, I recommend Image-Line's EZGENERATOR again: http://www.ezgenerator.com/
It is truly easy to use, all you need to do is do some very minor changes (website title + content) because you can choose a template from hundreds. The generated code isn't very standards compliant, but works on most major browsers like IE, Firefox, Safari, Konqueror, etc..

However, learning to code by hand is the best option if you have a) the time, b) the inspiration and c) ideas to make the website of your dreams. I don't know any good HTML tutorials, but if you are interested in PHP and JavaScript, www.tizag.com can be of great help.

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