Update "News" page on www.purebasic.com

[CSAUER]

According to the newspage it looks like nothing happend since Summer last year. New visitors could get the feeling, that there is no continue in development.
Release of PB 4 Linux should be added.

I would recommend to release info about beta stages as well.

Cheers
CSAUER

[PB]

And remove the links to wegroup.org and robsite.de, as it makes
PureBasic.com look like it's linking to "bad" web sites:

http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/purebasic.com

[Kaeru Gaman]

I don't know "wegroup.org", but I wonder where the problem with "robsite.de" is.

when I put robsite on siteadvisor, I found that they classified 42.zip as "ZIP-Crash trojan"


I think that may be related to the actual problems with reveral AV apps.

http://www.purebasic.fr/english/viewtopic.php?t=26578

http://www.purebasic.fr/german/viewtopic.php?t=12783

it seems, that a lot of purebasic products are classified as malware,
even if they are sober as can be.

test your own products with http://www.virustotal.com/


in fact we have to do something to stop the false alarms.
it's getting hard for some of us to bring their products to the people,
because more and more harmless tools are concidered malware.

disconnecting "robsite.de" from "purebasic.com" is no solution.
"robsite" is the one site with the most german tutorials for PB,
and Rob is the Serveradmin of the german forum.

[Derek]

Just ran the easy_picture_renamer that I was working on last week through the link on Kaeru Gaman's post.

All clear (of course) except for

Fortinet 2.85.0.0 04.30.2007 suspicious
Ikarus T3.1.1.5 04.30.2007 Backdoor.Win32.Agent.xh
Webwasher-Gateway 6.0.1 04.30.2007 Virus.Win32.FileInfector.gen!94 (suspicious)

which goes to show that you can't always trust what you are told by these virus detecting programs.

[Kaeru Gaman]

which goes to show that you can't always trust what you are told by these virus detecting programs.

but the problem is, the customer out there in the world will rather trust his AV-scanner than your PB-product.

I think we have to do something, and do it soon.
at least we should make known problems with AV-scanners public.

if you could link to a site where general problems of certain AV-apps with PB-progs are documentated,
that will help everyone who wants to offer his PB-product for download.

if we do nothing, step by step everyone who is publishing PB-products will be concidered a malware-programmer,
and in the end the community and PB itself will be completely isolated from the rest of the world.

[Derek]

In all fairness, it was only 3 out of 31 virus scanners that reported a problem and they may well be reporting problems in programs written using other languages (I haven't checked) but on the other hand they shouldn't really be being used if they have a problem with their scanning routines.

Probably it is something to do with the definitions these scanners use being mistaken for a small bit of code used in the startup of a PB program.

[Trond]

When your program is detected as a virus send them a copy of it and tell them it's false alarm. Most companies has a page for sending in virus samples (example: http://support.f-secure.com/enu/home/vi ... mple.shtml ), use that page for sending in your false sample and they fix it for the next update.

[Derek]

Good thinking, perhaps if enough PB programs get tested then the problem will go away.

[SFSxOI]

When your program is detected as a virus send them a copy of it and tell them it's false alarm. Most companies has a page for sending in virus samples (example: http://support.f-secure.com/enu/home/vi ... mple.shtml ), use that page for sending in your false sample and they fix it for the next update.

I've tried that with the Nortons people, did a small program in PB for reading geographic data for a microwave link project about a year ago. The answer i got three months later was that their hurestics (did I spell this right?) are modeled against industry standard programming languages and they wouldn't change for a non-standard language product.

[Trond]

When your program is detected as a virus send them a copy of it and tell them it's false alarm. Most companies has a page for sending in virus samples (example: http://support.f-secure.com/enu/home/vi ... mple.shtml ), use that page for sending in your false sample and they fix it for the next update.

I've tried that with the Nortons people, did a small program in PB for reading geographic data for a microwave link project about a year ago. The answer i got three months later was that their hurestics (did I spell this right?) are modeled against industry standard programming languages and they wouldn't change for a non-standard language product.

Seriously? F-Secure fixed a false alert on Game Maker within a day for me. Norton is crap anyways, it sucks out your system resources.

[Joakim Christiansen]

Norton is crap anyways, it sucks out your system resources.

Haha, indeed!

[Derek]

Definately, I've been asked to remove Norton from 3 laptops in the last month alone, terrible program that bogs your system down.

[Heathen]

Anything written by norton = bad. I don't think i've ever used a norton product after seeing how much resources they use while tuning up friends pcs.