traumatic wrote:Ricardo, maybe we're talking about the same thing using different terms,
I don't know. The thing is, "normalizing" does NOT mean a dozen of different
things, it's used for what I described (peak-level).
Normalizing does NOT affect the dynamic.
This is not about "mine's bigger than yours" but I recorded, mixed and
mastered enough records to absolutely know what I am talking about.
Well, I don't want to argue on that, normalization is just a fixed term,
leading to "conversation trouble" (like we have now) when used incorrectly.
Yes, this is a friendly conversation, count with that.
But, however im not agree with what you said.
In first place the absence of dynamics in modern music is not because any compression, its because the music itself. In any real professional mastering, the engineer try to apply dynamics as much as possible (as much as the poor music allows it).
In second place, in every professional mastering all song has it peaks fine.
The concepts involved in mastering or even in a professional home listening has NOTHING to do with mp3 and nothing to do with doing things like normalize.
The error i found in some arguments is trying to extrapolate concepts from professional mastering to something like playing mp3s in winamp in a PC or in a protable player!!!
Thats a nonsense in my opinion.
As i explained before, if music where played in a appropiate equipment and environment nobody needs to normalize nothing.
Thats why the normalize concept is very recent, at least its being know by many people now, not in the past... and that because its NOW that people feels that need to do SOMETHING to they files.
If you buy 10 great CDs and listen to it in an appropiate equipment and envirmonment, you will never feel you need to make something to that albums.
BUT when you encode this same albums to mp3 and play ot in portable mp3 player or in your PC... you may start feeling that something is not fine... and much more if you use to listen your mp3s in noise envirnments and MUCH MORE if you get your files from here and there (not all encoded by same encoder, etc).
I know that in theory the normalize reffer about peak normalize... but THAT concept is obsolete for the usage people are trying to do.
Maybe people need to use a new term, that don't really mean normalize or replay gain (another non satisfactory way to try to resolve the problem)... but atm people are looking for a 'normalizer' when trying to resolve the problem that i describe.
Then, imho, the solution for the problem that people find when:
-Listen mp3s in computer, portable players, etc.
-Get songs from many sources
-Listen to them in noise situations
Solution to this problem is not peak normalizing and not replay gain.
But people still call normalizing what they are looking for.
Try to use professional concepts to this specific situations are in imho a mistake.
